LFA people on here creeping me out a bit on here

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Jayson=agrees
what does "bettering ourselves" have to do with the fact that we cant feel when we have to go?? apparently if we (those of us with problems like this) arent perfect, then we do not fit in with some of those that are...oh wait, the some that are are supposidly autistic....do people not see this double standard? Like I can help having nerve damage.

No, it definitely wasn't that. I can't remember what it was though. And it was more about how I related to language, rather than how I related to speech in particular.



Yeah exactly, she was using it as an analogy rather than saying I had it, she was saying I probably had unusual functioning in a particular area, difficulty but not total lack of anything. But it definitely wasn't what you just described.

mmm i havent i dont use myspace

Yes, and it caused the person concerned a lot of distress. Actually, that's inaccurate, because it was not the delay in development (of the bodily processes entailed in the capacity to volitionally toilet oneself) that caused distress, but rather the responses and reactions of the cruel, the ignorant, the ignorantly cruel, and the cruelly ignorant.



I also fail in this regard. Perhaps we lack vision, or perhaps there is nothing to see. I think it's the latter.

heh; I use facebook but I remember looking at people myspaces when people make threads on other forum about how they look, and looking at what some people did during their raids and the like and the myspaces of the targets (when some people from TOTSE did that, etc..)

Some people with autism speak in this manner (in the third person) because they have difficulty conceptualising social relationships.

That difficulty extends into their understanding and use of the language of social relations that involves differentiating the self from others. As a consequence they may refer to themselves in the third person in order to avoid an area of cognitive difficulty. It is a communication strategy that mitigates cognitive strain and and helps to avoid confusing people that can result from getting the interpersonal terms wrong.

This is a problem that I consider myself fortunate not to have ( I have AS rather than LFA ) but I do not look down on people who do have to deal with these problems- we are all on the autistic spectrum even when our experience of it differs.




The challenge here is a major one; it cannot be resolved easily by a 'quick fix'.

Developing a real and deep understanding of the language of interpersonal relations is a major autistic life challenge that requires significant amounts of effort over at least several months. If people want to take up the challenge we should support and help them. We should not pressure them to change but should accept them as they are.


Magliabechi.

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Actually, it's also quite commonly used because it's what other people used.

People used to say "Does Mandy want a Sprite?" so I'd (according to my brother -- I don't remember this specifically) say "Mandy want a Sprite?" Echolalic language is very common in autistic people and is a linguistic rather than social thing.

(I actually know an autistic guy who learned to talk in order to explain to his non-autistic brother the difference between "I" and "you" linguistically. His little brother understood the difference socially but still mixed them up because of language problems.)

Similarly, in my family we referred to our parents by their first names because that's what they called each other and with two autistic kids you weren't going to have us specifically calling them mom and dad very often.

Additionally, some of us learn grammar in a way that gets the patterns down without the specific words. I mix up "little words" all the time, not because I don't know the difference, but because I, you, he, she, it, etc., all occupy the same little algorithm I have in my head for coming up with language.

I form the framework and drop words or phrases into it. Often I accidentally get the wrong words or phrases in many other areas too, not just social ones. Happened more in speech than in writing but it still happens in writing. Although I am noticing that when I chat with friends realtime, it happens more than when writing on boards like this. And when I chat with friends realtime under time pressure, my language is not only wrong more often, but sometimes shades into utter incomprehensibility because I start throwing phrases in any old order as well as getting some words and phrases wrong. Some of my autistic friends can actually translate the stuff I write in a hurry like that, which amazes me.

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unless "I" (aka me or jayson) is reminded to do this by my post it notes on my computer or by someone "I" do not do it. "I" refer to me as "Jayson" because that is me. Is there any other "fault" that you'd like to find in me today?

The Original Poster was indeed taking issue with your style of communication. Other people including myself will accept you as you are, Jaysonlee4.


Magliabechi.

Excuse me but for people with incontinence, they may feel it coming out but they can't stop it because their nerves to their bladder doesn't work so they have no way controlling that muscle. That is the severe case of incontinence.

thanks

Oh BS, reason why babies go in their pants is because they don't know how to control it yet and it's because their muscles to their bladder isn't strong enough yet.

When a child starts to show signs they are ready to be potty trained because their muscles in their bladder has developed, that's when the parents start to teach them to control their bladder and how to use the bathroom.

I didn't see anything creepy about the website. I don't understand what is so creepy about it.

Seconded. It's an amiable website sharing the interests of a person who seems normal and good natured.


Magliabechi.

thirded lol

troll alert this thread should die! I hope the OP is happy now.. he got the attention that he wanted!! More than he had bargained for perhaps.