Very high functioning AS in denial -no I dont have aspergers

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I think people on here are massively underestimating the damage that can be done by someone behaving like this. I hope something happens to stop Surfman from inflicting pain on innocent people. His heroes might well have killed themselves BECAUSE someone told them they have AS, and if he can't get his head around that, then something needs to happen to him to make him shut up and mind his own business anyway, no matter what that takes.

It's not like he's going to be doing it accidentally now. He's admitted that he is willing to hurt someone "for their own good". In my view, that is worse than hurting someone for your own fun. Not only is he willing to hurt someone, he's willing to take a decision about what is good for others in the face of numerous people telling him they have made educated decisions to the contrary. That kind of stupidity is the worst kind of evil.

I think you are way more stupid and evil for buying into this threads status quo of not mentioning autistic traits.

When I finally found out I had AS, it was like, why couldnt I have found out sooner?

The above comment is very sad and false

And when I was diagnosed, it was like "Why the f**k does the psychiatric establishment think they have the right to label my personality when I did not go to them with any problems?" and "Why the f**k did my b***h of a mother allow this to happen?" and "How will this diagnosis affect my career (the only thing in the world that matters to me)?"

The sensible way to deal with this is to have a system where, if someone is experiencing problem in life, they can go to a counsellor or a shrink or their GP and say "I experience this and it bothers me, is there anything that can be done about it?" and then they can say yes or no depending on whether there is something in the DSM and some treatment to deal with it, and then if the person chooses to they can undergo diagnosis and treatment....or not. Having a diagnosis (official or otherwise) foisted on you BY A STRANGER while you are going about your business is distressing for MOST people, and it could be extremely distressing for some.

Never underestimate the power of an individual

You dont need a doctor to blow your nose and wipe your behind.

Today I was approached by a lawnmower man I spoke to 2 months about AS. He started talking about himself, his aloneness, his loneliness. Hes a nice quiet man, but once you get him going, he talked on and on, definitely slightly on the spectrum.....

He didnt outright thank me, but he appeared appreciative of what I had said earlier about AS, and asked some questions



I feel vindicated, so a big bowl of raspberries to all the pooh pooh, dont talk about AS to strangers fan club

Getting an official diagnosis "while going about your business" has to be extremely rare. Why see a doctor if you're not having problems?

All I'm doing is bringing up AS in casual conversation!

Who does not have problems? And who admits to strangers social ineptitude?

And who except crazy ostriches wants to put their head in the sand and not know of AS?

Who felt relieved when they finally understood why why why?

And why does everyone here want to keep this knowledge from those who it greatly affects in their lives, but hide these shortcomings in lonely embarrassment from others???

People have already expressed their opinions and aren't likely to change them even if you keep on expressing yours.

You have gotten quite a bit of support from people saying they have nothing at all against you, yet you chose to ignore it and only responded to the very few who seem to feel some kind of animosity, and who were not even posting in the thread earlier on. I think it may be time to let it go and agree to disagree.

Thanks but I'm starting to enjoy replying to these threads.

Initially I really couldnt believe the heartless response of not helping others, by bringing awareness of AS traits to VHFA

Its a shame shame shame to allow unnecessary suffering in others by not speaking up, especially within our own family. Yet many here condone this policy of ignorance

You know who you are. Shame on you heartless people

Well, in my case, my mother made that decision and I was observed in school by a psychologist without my knowledge. That actually isn't particularly rare for children. I was perfectly happy, and would not have consented to assessment had I known what was happening.

I was really responding to surf man's particular approach of amateur diagnosing people in conversation.

If he wants to ignore all the evidence however, there is nothing I can do but hope someone reacts to him in a sufficiently hostile way in real life to put him off doing it.

do you feel that you are some sort of savior who can "rescue" people by enlightening them with your profound and almost psychic power of "AS sensibility"? i know i am not allowed to say this but you are not diagnosed and yet you want to situate yourself as a diagnostician of AS based upon not external lists, but your own perceptions.

you are like a person that is consumed in a "cult " fashion by your belief that a diagnosis of asperger syndrome is the answer to any fundamental oddity you see in others. also you believe that being diagnosed as as AS is some sort of justification for all failures of acquisition.

but you diagnosed yourself to be AS, and i expect that you should get the megaphone away from your mouth until you know what you are (with more validity than your armchair considerations).

Okay, this has been annoying me:

What does VHFA mean, anyway? I know what HFA and LFA mean. But what is VHFA? Does it mean someone who is not actually impaired by their autistic traits? Because there's a label for that already - broad autistic phenotype. If someone is legitimately autistic, then their traits are impairing, and "very high functioning" is probably very much not applicable.

I think there are more than two grades of functioning that could be described as being on the autism spectrum. Also I didn't know about the phrase "broad autistic phenotype."

I don't even agree with HFA and LFA, but I know other people find them useful. I certainly did not claim there are only two grades of functioning, I simply said I know what HFA and LFA are. What I don't know is what "VHFA" is supposed to mean.

bring it on big boy

thats the spirit Louie

Initially I really couldnt believe the heartless response of not helping others, by bringing awareness of AS traits to VHFA

Its a shame shame shame to allow unnecessary suffering in others by not speaking up, especially within our own family. Yet many here condone this policy of ignorance

You know who you are. Shame on you heartless people