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01 Sep 2011, 8:02 am

iceveela wrote:

swbluto wrote:

You seem to have a lot of NT mannerisms, responses and speech patterns.

everyone on here seems to... unless pointless debating on a message forum and screaming about diagnoses and neurology of psychiatrist and neurologist is considered an asperger trait...

Is it really that "NT" to think this way? Well, than I guess Japanese anime and pokemon taught me a lot about NT way of "speech" in the occasion of a pointless fight on a message forum...

. I'll admit I don't have a really good idea of what characterizes NT thinking versus AS thinking, but the type and amount of sarcasm/insinuation/subtlety seems a bit more characteristic of NT thinking than AS. One thing I've noticed is that there's a subtle but definite difference in the directness between AS and NT individuals.

But, you know, just because your communication/thinking seems more "NT" than "AS" doesn't mean you can't be "AS" in other ways. There's sensory sensitivities, social aversion and melt-downs among others (Like atypical regulation of tonality and facial expressions; this actually seems to be among the most obvious characteristics.) that are also indicators of AS.

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01 Sep 2011, 8:09 am

Can't we all just get along? You all have finished 7 pages of comments debating one another... and what have you accomplished? 0, zilch, nada, nothing, zip, zero! Do you all feel better now? I know it must not be a very "aspie" thing to try and break up a pointless argument... but by golly I am gonna try!

How close are you all to a agreement? Where the hell did all this tension even come from? why are you all so thin skinned? Just go and have fun with your lives!! ! I am sure you all have better things to do than argue with each other! Like science, or a hobby one of you have... most likely inspired by science! Lets talk about quantum physics, or raccoon biology, or microbiology and its effects on the common known notions of the evolution argument. But don't waste your time debating in here. You all are fighting and over what? Me? I am not that important... Don't debate over me!

yuk! I hate all this negativity... My next post is going to be about photosynthesis and the biology of unicorns... and about my possible diagnosis when I go to college... and raccoons! all clumped together in one big wad...

Sorry if that sounded too "NT", I learn speech patterns through television... thats probubly why...

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01 Sep 2011, 8:17 am

iceveela wrote:

You're doing it again.

Breaking up arguments and encouraging peacefulness is a way of improving the relations between different people, which is not a primary concern of aspies. "Negativity" also doesn't 'show up' nearly as much on an AS person's emotional 'radar' and cause them to seek said harmony, so to say.

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01 Sep 2011, 8:33 am

swbluto wrote:

You're doing it again.

Hell, I don't care if you fight, and I really don't care if you all get along, just GTFO OF MY THREAD, if your gonna do it!! ! I am getting tired of the e-mail reminders appearing every 5 minutes when someone else writes a book about their beliefs and posts them on here!! ! :ncool:

lol

Yeah... I am not "emotional", but due to emotional shows and anime (namely pokemon) that I watch, i sure make it sound that way in a post... :chin:

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01 Sep 2011, 8:39 am

swbluto wrote:

I'll admit I don't have a really good idea of what characterizes NT thinking versus AS thinking, but the type and amount of sarcasm/insinuation/subtlety seems a bit more characteristic of NT thinking than AS. One thing I've noticed is that there's a subtle but definite difference in the directness between AS and NT individuals.

Oh... I did not know that... I come from a family where sarcasm and insinuation occurs in 99% of speech, so I honestly don't know any other way to talk, well... type... but... yeah...

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01 Sep 2011, 8:55 am

SmallFruitSong wrote:

Remember, a psychiatrist is a trained health professional and the majority have some knowledge about ASD, so I don't know why some people are being dismissive of them.

In the United States at least, psychiatrists tend to focus on things which can be medicated away and cured. They are strongly associated with medication. As an ASD is not something to be medicated for (though co-morbids might be), there is a bias against psychiatrists for ASDs.

Some people are biased against them in general because they see them as pill pushers, while others are just in regard to things that aren't cured, because their focus tends to be with the medications and such.

For me, some of my services go through my primary care - a neuropsychologist diagnosed me, sent a report to my primary care doctor, and things like a prescription for a weighted blanket come from her.

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01 Sep 2011, 9:11 am

I feel like Canada... Its like I don't even exist here anymore...

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01 Sep 2011, 10:31 am

iceveela wrote:

I feel like Canada... Its like I don't even exist here anymore...

I'm sorry about that.

I was as surprised as you are at such a vociferous response to what was initially just an amused observation and then when I point out that things may not always be so rosy in the world of mental health professionals I get told that my experiences are wrong and that's not how things work. Maybe people feel threatened, as though I'm trying to take something away from them but that just isn't case.

I'll not post any more in this thread.

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01 Sep 2011, 10:29 pm

nemorosa wrote:

No, what you think you know does not apply to the situation where I am. What you have written indicates you do not comprehend that.

Your original comment generalized all psychologists and psychiatrists. You did not specify only the ones where you live. That was a mistake on your part.

nemorosa wrote:

Because you were talking as if what you said were fact without any regard to location.

So did you.

nemorosa wrote:

Really, I'm being pathetic?

Yep.

nemorosa wrote:

Careful with that language there anyhow, I'm sure that's not quite in the spirit of the forum rules.

Then report me. I maintain my stance, and I won't be "careful" in tossing around words to someone who is belittling every opinion I have. If they want to ban me, then they can. I didn't do anything wrong, and I don't need threats from people like YOU.

nemorosa wrote:

So if it is just a funny fuzzy feeling you have with no facts to back it up then why bother sharing it with us?

You have no facts to back up your opinion on psychiatrists either, so WHY BOTHER SHARING IT? You also have NO facts based upon any percentages, SO WHY BOTHER RESPONDING when you have no idea what your talking about? I did not mention a freaking "funny fuzzy feeling". Pathetic.

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01 Sep 2011, 10:29 pm

SmallFruitSong wrote:

What is wrong with the phrase, "highly doubtful"? Are we not allowed to express alternate opinions? :?:

Apparently not on his "poop deck"!

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01 Sep 2011, 10:32 pm

nemorosa wrote:

Now you are just being rude.

LOLOL And you have been VERY unpleasant to deal with as well, so I guess we're even then!

And HOW do you expect us to being all-knowledgeable about the psychiatric system where you live when you don't even give any indication. Duh!

nemorosa wrote:

Again you read but do not comprehend.

Again you make unfounded remarks about my level of comprehension. I do know what I am talking about. I guess anyone who disagrees with the almighty Nemorosa is just nothing but an ignorant schmuck!

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01 Sep 2011, 10:34 pm

nemorosa wrote:

You have been constantly "telling it like it is" thinking your experience and knowledge is universal

You have been doing quite the same thing!

And I never said my experience is universal. When I said not all psychiatrists are biased, that is when you began attacking! Take a look in the mirror nemorosa!

nemorosa wrote:

Some might say that's insufferable.

Only people who pathetically think they comprehend what I have been trying to say but really don't have TWO CLUES!

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01 Sep 2011, 10:35 pm

nemorosa wrote:

Aren't you interested in why someone thinks the way they do?

Why? You apparently aren't interested as you never asked me why I thought the way I did. You just belitted me, making reference to my age and saying I apparently don't know much or understand anything. Don't act so high and mighty!

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01 Sep 2011, 10:42 pm

iceveela wrote:

Do you all feel better now?

Nope--I am just as pissed as I was when he started belittling me, actually. Even moreso actually.

iceveela wrote:

How close are you all to a agreement?

I am not going to agree with him, nor had I planned to.

iceveela wrote:

I am sure you all have better things to do than argue with each other!

Actually, my schedule is pretty open.

iceveela wrote:

You all are fighting and over what? Me?

I am not fighting over you. I am arguing because someone thought the need to belittle my comments and say that I should not share my opinions. Yep, I'm going to become defensive to that.

I am sorry your thread turned out like this. Like I said (and I don't mean this rudely, no matter what a certain someone might say), it is an unfortunate fact that the OP does not have control over the direction of the thread. Sometimes things like this happens on public forums.

I did respond to this thread in what I thought was helpful in your other post. I don't think you must have liked my advice, but I was on topic, and thought I was helping. Apparently I am a crappy advice-giver who "knows not what I" speak of. Please disregard anything I have ever said since it is all wrong.

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01 Sep 2011, 10:45 pm

iceveela wrote:

I feel like Canada... Its like I don't even exist here anymore...

Ooookay. Is that supposed to mean Canada doesn't really exist? I must live no where.

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01 Sep 2011, 10:50 pm

nemorosa wrote:

I was as surprised as you are at such a vociferous response to what was initially just an amused observation and then when I point out that things may not always be so rosy in the world of mental health professionals I get told that my experiences are wrong and that's not how things work. Maybe people feel threatened, as though I'm trying to take something away from them but that just isn't case.

Yes, play the victim! That really doesn't surprise me!

No, I do not feel threatened. By what? Your superior knowledge? Your wisdom? Why would I feel threatened by YOU? The only time I felt threatened by you was when you basically threatened me. That's about it. I am angry with you, not threatened. I think belittling every single opinion I have, telling me I basically have no business sharing them, and then targetting my age to clearly demonstrate your superiority were low blows. It takes two to fight, not just you and NOT just me. You had a hand in too, and are not the poor little victim.

Also, the original response that you wrote that caused this mess was a generalization of how psychs cannot be unbiased because the one individual you wrote of must be demonstrative of all psychs.

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