Reading issues.

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Normaly I have almost no problems with reading,
but when the paragraphs are big and the lines of text are close together, I have big problems keeping the place on the page,
often missing some lines and reading others multiple times, if the book is moved or web page scrolled, i sometimes need to scan the entire text to find where i was.
Does anyone know what could cause this?

I have no idea but I have the same problem.

I have to read and do things in short blocks too. If a paragraph is too big I unusually can't read it without getting frustrated.

I think it might be due to your eyes muscles.
They may be weak and need to strengthen.
There are specilists to help you to train them.

(In yoga too, there is what is called eyes yoga )


But also, when somebody, the all body, is tired, it is more difficult to read that kind of paragraph as well.

Or maybe you're just aging?



Edit: I just saw you're 31 so it musn't be the aging, sorry.

If somebody posts an overly large text without using paragraphs, I tend to just ignore the damn thing alltogether.

aging!
There may be something to that!
I do have other weak muscles especialy for my hands. my handwriting is a messy, painfull nightmare.
there are also the joint and tendon problems, hand tremors and almost zero attention span.
you may be correct, i'm a senile 80 year old in a 31 year old body.

Everyone hates textwalls. D: I'm pretty sure most people get lost. That's why they invented paragraphs, probably.

If it's on the comp, highlight as you read.

My grandmother used her finger when she read novels.
But she was old and reading was not what she knew to do the best.

... Actually, when we are small and learn how to do it (read), it's with the finger too or a sheet of paper to hide the text underneath the line. When you're on your own, it can be a solution if you absolutely want to read something which is difficult.

I have the same problem, especially for the last few months. Sometimes it gets so bad its not just losing my place (eye tracking problems) but words appear to look like a different language!

How's that?
A foreign langage?
With still the same letters or different ones?

Could be Irlen's syndrome, photophobia, light sensitivity.

Get your eyes checked by an optometrist first. If there's no problems get checked for Irlen's syndrome. The symptoms are very similar to what you described.
Also, stress can do this to you.

I had strained muscles and light sensitivity, so I always wear my reading glasses. I look quite cute too. :p

@persieve

I am a sufferer of Meers and Irlen syndrome you are kinda right but kinda wrong at the same time Irlen syndrome is a lot more complicated for of all it is eased by using colour to nullify the white and black contrast because that is the man difficulty of like text colour blindness, Irlen syndrome is usually accompanied by dyslexia in most cases but irlen s itself is quite rare.

Seeing text with colour eases or creates more glare and it is best for Jstin to actually go for a dyslexia assessment as most if not all opticians opthomologists do not practise or aid in Irlen syndrome as it is neurological not opthological so going to an opticians would be pointless as special equip,ment needs to be used

Justin if possable post other feeling symptons as fellow dyslexics could assist you hehe it sounds iffy though as I cannot read in block it is commo in dyslexia as the letters and numbers move around or get lost you're getting lost certainly sounds like dyslexia so first of allask for an assessment of dyslexia and ask for a Mere an Irlen syndrome test alongside

hope all is sorted but you could also be tired dyslexia is sometimes not noticable especially if the patient is very introverted and just struggles on so certainly look into it you may need advice as I had my assessment at university and outside o university they are rather expensive

Thanks,
I've never considered dyslexia, but thinking about it,
when handwriting, i often miss sections of and whole words out and can have some "imagionative" spelling.
At least with a computer i can correct the mistakes i see, but sometimes even basic words look wierd
Does anyone else need a dictionary for words as short as 3 or 4 letters?

If somebody didn't separate into proper sentences and paragraphs, the content is confused. The same words in different forms mean different things, and Wall of Text is a form of Word Salad to me. Everything becomes so jumbled together the signal of the point they are making gets turned into nothing but noise. The use of understandable grammatic structure and punctuation creates a separation between concepts and implies relationships, leading to better comprehension.

^ I just stated an overall thesis to give people a clear idea of where I'm coming from, which sets a context for anything further I say. I am now giving a specific detail and example as a way of demonstrating the idea I was conveying, as a way of reinforcing the initial statement and giving a point of debate for somebody to disagree or agree with. If I had not used a carriage return or line break, then it would be hard to tell where the intro thesis ended and where the supporting argument began.

Respectful discussion has a responsibility to give enough support so that respondents have something to argue in support of or against. Respectful discussion has a responsibility to separate ideas into different places so as not to use misleading rhetoric. It is poor form to slip the point people are likely to argue inside of a paragraph about something only peripherally related, that point should be separated and supported on its own.

Declaratives should be supported by arguments, unless you are actually seeking out a he said she said "yes it is no it isn't" style argument rather than discourse carrying out debate of a subject in a manner respecting the intelligence of all participants. The arguments do not need to be fully realized logically unassailable essays, but they should give a starting point for somebody to agree or disagree with you.

In conclusion, I might appear overly verbose to people. My intent is simply to reduce misunderstanding and convey my thoughts in a complete manner that does not ask people to make assumptions in order to seek conversation with me. I am bringing us back to my central point and tying up the post.

Sorry Crassus, but I wasn't looking for a lengthy debate about how to properly construct a document.

The reason I started this thread was to get sugestions about possible causes of my problems from people that live with them so I can present to the appropriate expert.

What you described in your first post is me. I have no problems reading. I have excellent comprehension. When people cluster things up, I get confused and lost and disoriented and can't follow what the heck they said unless I copy edit into an understandable properly constructed document.

The exact same wall of text, after I copy edit it, I have no problems understanding. This is how I have dealt with living with that problem. Skip the post or chop it up and copy edit in word.


(edit:)
I haven't been very clear. I have a formal thought disorder. I think in metaphor. I've learned to translate from my metaphor language to English by conforming to certain grammatical standards and being able to have myself understood. Going in the other direction, if people don't obey enough of the conventions I can follow, it isn't just noise to me, it is noise I'm obsessively compulsively trying to decipher signal out of because I know the signal is there, I just can't get to it.

In a sense, my posting on forums is a form of stimming. Semi formal writing and speech throughout my day is one of the methods I've learned to keep from getting disoriented by peoples communications. I also spend a lot of time listening to talk radio or watching informational programming. If I don't engage in these things, I have a tendency to drift into a catatonic state.

In this state, I'm simply unaware of anything going on outside my inner world, and nothing anybody does is going to get through to me. You can physically get me to stand up and walk and semi do things I know how to do as long as you keep physically directing me to do them, but I'm not really consciously aware it happened until I "come back into myself". Certain stimuli can trigger these states, one of which is the Wall of Text phenomenon or Word Salad. I get caught in a recursive loop trying to derive a metaphor I can understand from the information and while my mind is caught cycling that, I slip off into The Waking Dream.

I don't know that you are talking about anything like what I'm talking about. If you wish, I will delete my posts. I don't mean to get in the way of your thread.

Thanks for the sugestion.
Unfortunatly it's much harder to copy and paste text from books.
I want to read more but when i'm getting the lines of text mixed up i't gets confusing.


*Gets scissors, cuts page into managable sections* I've just messed up the next page!

I'm sure the library wouldn't approve of me cutting up their books!