What makes you unemployable?
I volunteer once a week at the library, and I manage ok at the moment.
But I don't think I could get a real job, because I'm late sometimes to the volunteer work because of sleep issues, I can't deal with people, and I overload with lots of noise, people, or warm heating. Also gastrointestinal issues can sometimes interrupt what I'm doing, and they get worse when I'm anxious. Also there's 'the knack' to things and not knowing what to do with myself, but hating direction.
The library job works in my favour though, because there's a rigid system for pretty much everything. That means I can just go do what I've been told to, and I don't have to deal with people directly. Also not being interrupted is a bonus, because that's something that makes me stressed out, and my singlemindedness gets tedious time consuming jobs done when other librarians don't want to do them.
I have family members in academics and I'm afraid even though the University setting is more accepting of special interests and quirks, there is a definite social dynamic one has to navigate. I had an older friend when I was in college who was buddies with many of my professors so I got to see them in their social element. Not too much different from junior high. Academics are more and more competitive. My cousin has a recent doctorate in Anthropology and is scrambling to find a position. She recently had a 5 hour interview with Smithsonian. It's hard everywhere.
ChekaMan
Pileated woodpecker
Joined: 17 Aug 2010
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 184
Location: Whitstable,UK
2. And do you agree with those aspects or do you consider that other aspects of AS are in fact what makes you unemployable?
I ask because I usually find jobs after a while (although I'm soon fired from them), therefore I'm not considered unemployable. Which means I have to live a life of constant unemployment and constantly being fired, and it's a very painful way to live.
Ditto and ditto. I'm going through that very struggle right now - trying to explain to government paper-pushers that in spite of the fact that I'm not physically crippled or mentally ret*d, my autism is a very severe handicap, and becoming more so every year, because my age makes the job searching ever more difficult.
I worked in a very specific career for thirty years, that was perfectly suited to both my obsessive Aspergian nature and my difficulties socializing - I got paid to work in a room alone playing records and talking to myself. Even at that, my pattern was 15 to 18 months on the job, then 8 to 10 months on unemployment (always fired - rarely quit a job). After the first ten years or so, that gets pretty tiresome. At 50, it's suicidally depressing.
Why am I unemployable? Well, now that I can put a name (AS) with my own odd and uncontrollable interactions and reactions with the human world, I understand it perfectly. Explaining it to anyone other than a mental health professional with a working knowledge of High Functioning Autism is another matter.
I'm unemployable because nearly every middle-management executive-wannabe type personality I've ever met in my life has their own obsession - they not only need to be in control - they need everyone under their command to behave and function in exactly the same way. Because of my autism, there are often times and situations in which I have to find an alternate method of achieving a goal - the traditional routes simply stop me cold. I can't always explain why. Sometimes my pattern of logic just takes an alternate path. What works quickly and efficiently for me may be strikingly different than what's simple for everybody else. These alpha management types haaaaate that. It confuses them and they are easily frightened and unsettled by what they don't understand. That fear turns almost immediately to hostility and bada-boom-bada-bing I'm suddenly NOT A TEAM PLAYER. Translation: Yoah fi-aahd!
Sadly, when you explain it that way on a government form, the typical reaction to that explanation is "That's very articulate. A smart guy like you should have no trouble getting a job."
No, getting a job hasn't been the issue. I can charm the pants off almost anyone in a job interview. A hundred bucks says I won't make to a second anniversary. And now they don't want me because my age will make their insurance rates go up.
I'm too old for this s**t.
I miss Willard, what a great post.
_________________
Not currently a moderator
I don't know that I'm "Unemployable", but I'm damn uncertain about my job prospects. For one, I've been out a real job so long because of my disabilities (Depression and Insomnia, primarily. My AS also puts limitations on what I can do; not a "people person" by any means.) that I feel like, however illogical this may seem to others, potential employers would wipe their backsides with my application. And because all of my disability money for AS goes to just keeping a roof over my head, there's not much I can do to pay for appointments, medicine, etc, while keeping as much money as I'd like in my account. Sorta sucks, doesn't it?
That said, I'm thinking of getting in touch with an old employer and maybe going back to Supported Employment and seeing if I can't just trudge through my issues to maybe find some decent work. I have my concerns, such as repressing the symptoms of my illnesses as best I can during my shifts, how much time it will take to find a job, hopping from place to place, dealing with people and stressing myself just to get an application with no guarantees of employment, but while those concerns have and do weigh very, very heavily on my mind, I still think that maybe I have a shot if I spend some time looking. If nothing else, I suppose there is dignity in the attempt; in going out and looking to reintegrate yourself in the workforce.
no one will hire me anyway so i gave up..if someone offers a work sure ill do it...but likely not at least a paying one...so ill just get some van and go have fun
_________________
followthereaper until its time to make a turn,
followthereaper until point of no return-children of bodom-follow the reaper
I doubt anybody "scared him off" by lying about his diagnosis. But I remember indeed that he was targeted by a a few vicious and cowardly attacks.
_________________
"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live" (Oscar Wilde)
Reasons I'm unemployable--
Sensory overload leads to regular shutdown.
Social skills are too weak to work with people.
Unable to detect duplicity/lying, etc., except through logical contradictions.
PTSD and depression left over from childhood abuse (both currently in remission).
Burnout usually happens within three months because the amount of downtime I get isn't enough to recover.
Executive dysfunction leading to problems with task-switching, planning, and organization.
Self-care takes longer for me than for most people, even though I'm completely independent with it.
Yep, I agree with those things. I know, because those were the facts I put down on my application, and what I explained to the examiners. I also explained my work record and how I kept trying to work and kept getting fired because I couldn't do the job. At one point I actually called the social security office to explain how my status had changed because I had been fired from yet another job for being unable to intimidate the customers into not stealing gas from the gas pumps. Doing your own social security paperwork, if you can do so, does have its benefits--you can look at your situation thoroughly, unlike a lawyer with whom you would only meet occasionally. Thankfully I am pretty good at understanding relatively complex things, and studying SSI itself (I read a couple of books from the library) helped me get through the system the first time I tried. The important thing is just to make things very clear for them, stick to the facts, and explain what the barriers are that you are facing. You don't have to go into any pity party or anything--just say exactly what your life is like and exactly why you are having trouble working. They like that best, when everything is clearly stated.
If you keep trying to work and you keep getting fired, you may still be unemployable. The criterion they are looking for is "Can you find sustained employment?", not, "Can you find a job?" In fact, I suggest you do keep trying, because you may have overlooked some specific situation in which you can work (in which case you won't need SSI); and if not, it won't hurt your chances of getting SSI to have a work record of multiple short-term jobs that you kept not being able to do well enough to keep them. Not only does it illustrate why you have trouble working, but it makes it clear to them that you keep trying to work and that you are not a lazy bum who just wants a meal ticket. And like I said, you might get lucky--maybe you'll find a job you can do, and you can go tell SSI to kiss your butt and go bug somebody else with their flood of paperwork.
I would also suggest getting hooked up with your local bureau of vocational rehabilitation. They can often find little niche jobs that skip around your weaknesses and let you work even with a disability. In my case, they are helping me buy textbooks and occasionally pay for tuition at a local college, so that I can use my talent with science and logic to find a job as an engineer. I'm still on SSI until I can support myself; but I might be able to get off it, if I can get a job in my area of strength. That's another possibility: That you are unemployable now, but you would be employable with training. There are ways to access that necessary training.
If you have trouble figuring out the system, I would highly suggest getting a case worker. These are usually social workers available through referral from mental health agencies, etc., and can help you with everything from paying bills to navigating the job market to getting SSI paperwork filled out.
_________________
Reports from a Resident Alien:
http://chaoticidealism.livejournal.com
Autism Memorial:
http://autism-memorial.livejournal.com
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
Netflix’s new Avatar the last airbender makes no sense |
06 Apr 2024, 5:38 pm |
Neurological Condition That Makes Other Faces Appear Demonic |
09 Apr 2024, 7:24 pm |