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30 Aug 2009, 8:05 am

well..

I can think of a few things.

Can you?

In response to: Why are we bad at sports?



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30 Aug 2009, 8:10 am

What is this WE business?

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30 Aug 2009, 8:12 am

GOOD at sports?

Uh...

I'm quite the opposite...


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30 Aug 2009, 8:19 am

such as

-Passion-DRIVE-Will-Obsession-Perfectionism
.. Then Analytical Skills- Visualisation of gameplay etc..Problem solving, Weapons of war, Playing the laws, knowing the rules, thinking outside the square
Strive for the best, Giving it your all..Moral,honest (golf incident)



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30 Aug 2009, 8:21 am

ruveyn wrote:
What is this WE business?

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Yeah I wouldn't have used the word "we"

was following on from why are we bad at sport.. thread..

we referring to aspies..



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30 Aug 2009, 8:25 am

beau99 wrote:
GOOD at sports?

Uh...

I'm quite the opposite...


true..

Yeah I personally have won the odd trophy..

and there are successful aspie sportsmen/people out there :)

hmm recently watched surfwise documentary with dorian paskowitz ..
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30 Aug 2009, 8:25 am

Apsies? Sports? :?
This topic unsettles me. I understand that you are perhaps trying to stand up against what is taken as a given (aspies being bad at sports) but you have no credible evidence...most people with ASD have dyspraxia and therefore are naturally bad at sports.



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30 Aug 2009, 8:28 am

AJCoyne wrote:
Apsies? Sports? :?
This topic unsettles me. I understand that you are perhaps trying to stand up against what is taken as a given (aspies being bad at sports) but you have no credible evidence...most people with ASD have dyspraxia and therefore are naturally bad at sports.


hmm..

Im going on the flipside here..

sure aspies might have some areas of difficulty..

but also some areas of.. expertise.. such as memory of gameplay,rules problem solving etc..

and being driven to succeed. most aspies are passionate?



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30 Aug 2009, 8:33 am

kiwi wrote:
AJCoyne wrote:
Apsies? Sports? :?
This topic unsettles me. I understand that you are perhaps trying to stand up against what is taken as a given (aspies being bad at sports) but you have no credible evidence...most people with ASD have dyspraxia and therefore are naturally bad at sports.


hmm..

Im going on the flipside here..

sure aspies might have some areas of difficulty..

but also some areas of.. expertise.. such as memory of gameplay,rules problem solving etc..

and being driven to succeed. most aspies are passionate?
Maybe so, but that is not really enought to suggest that we are generally good at sports. I have done some pretty sporty things...I did a backflip without the aid of a trampoline or wall...I kick ass at table tennis because of my hand-eye co-ordiation...I can work up a crowd during Rounders...at 6 I won a silver award for sprinting...but I certainly wouldn't class myself as sporty, I can't kick a ball, or even walk straight sometimes.



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30 Aug 2009, 8:35 am

Link for interest sake:


Does Michael Phelps have Aspergers Syndrome?

I'm not saying he does, but maybe.. Found link after googling "aspergers and sport"



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30 Aug 2009, 8:44 am

AJCoyne wrote:
kiwi wrote:
AJCoyne wrote:
Apsies? Sports? :?
This topic unsettles me. I understand that you are perhaps trying to stand up against what is taken as a given (aspies being bad at sports) but you have no credible evidence...most people with ASD have dyspraxia and therefore are naturally bad at sports.


hmm..

Im going on the flipside here..

sure aspies might have some areas of difficulty..

but also some areas of.. expertise.. such as memory of gameplay,rules problem solving etc..

and being driven to succeed. most aspies are passionate?
Maybe so, but that is not really enought to suggest that we are generally good at sports. I have done some pretty sporty things...I did a backflip without the aid of a trampoline or wall...I kick ass at table tennis because of my hand-eye co-ordiation...I can work up a crowd during Rounders...at 6 I won a silver award for sprinting...but I certainly wouldn't class myself as sporty, I can't kick a ball, or even walk straight sometimes.


Well you seem pretty sporty to me :D
Well done some sporty things.. you have stopped now?

so you have good hand eye co-ordination? :D

cool.. yeah I was pretty good at table tennis too :)

and that hand eye coordination/ that visualisation is in all aspies?
(well all aspies are different)

sprinting yeah.. well makes me think of cross country.. and aspies 'never dieing'( never giving up..) passion and drive..



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30 Aug 2009, 8:53 am

AHAHAHA! You are funny.



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30 Aug 2009, 9:04 am

SplinterStar wrote:
AHAHAHA! You are funny.


:D

thats good.. laughing is good yeah?

yeah :D

I read this page.. "Athletes with aspergers?" WP thread

and remembered, that yeah "thats right".. "I have a high pain threshold"

and they say aspies have a high pain threshold.. (well some do ;)



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30 Aug 2009, 9:09 am

As of now, I've never met a naturally athletic aspie/autie. I've met both fit and unfit people on the spectrum. Honestly if you mean team sports I think it might go against the definition of being an aspie/autie to be naturally good at teams sports b/c it requires both coordination & social skills (knowing how to cooperate, read your teammates, work together at a fast pace, etc.). Our need to analyze social cues (if we recognize something at all) would/will slow many or all of us down. It doesn't sound like the majority (or any I don't know) of us. I personally learned to do acrobatic gymnastics over a long period of yrs. (around 12 b/c my mom was the coach, she stopped when she got a new job & I did b/c of college prepping stuff) but I was always bad at it (took me awhile to learn a cartwheel, etc. But I was always fairly natural & comfortable w/ limbers (extending my back) but cannot stand to go backwards (can't tell where I am) & bad w/ all traditional handstands except limbers (handstand- fall properly into backbend-stand right back up). Yes, their are proper ways to fall. I was also natural w/ dancing (ballet etc.) roller blading, the little bit of yoga & pilates I've done. But most of this I think is the result of yrs. of dance/acro training to improve my coordination. I would guess aspies/auties are not naturals at sports, but b/c of our unusual reactions to pain it can be good or bad. An aspie/autie who chooses to be an athlete could probably push themselves really well if they really wanted too (I'm a lazy bum who exercises out of paranoia about getting fat or sick). But on the other hand (I've done this) we (aspies/auties who choose to do athletic things) are at higher risk than NT's of pushing themselves way too hard . Ex. I pushed myself to get a flat split as a kid that I ripped my hamstrings (I stop at or just past my limit/when I feel the mildest pull in my muscles). I've also overdone certain exercises b4 (strength type stuff). DON"T do this! I'm sure their is at least one naturally athletic aspie/autie out there. But I've never met them & really doubt they could be the majority.

Note: Dance/stretching if done correctly when a child is young can help correct toe walking (stretch out the achilles tendons & such). My mom once worked w/ a girl whose toe walking was so bad (most likely permanent) that she did cartwheels that way (not easy considering my mom noticed the aspies/auties she's worked w/ including & not including me have problems learning to coordinate sideways body motions/like in cartwheels).

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30 Aug 2009, 9:36 am

Peko wrote:
As of now, I've never met a naturally athletic aspie/autie. I've met both fit and unfit people on the spectrum. Honestly if you mean team sports I think it might go against the definition of being an aspie/autie to be naturally good at teams sports b/c it requires both coordination & social skills (knowing how to cooperate, read your teammates, work together at a fast pace, etc.).


I disagree (although agree... social element can be 'interesting' in team sports)
But many team sports.. Each person has a role to provide in that team. A very individual role. For example in rugby there are many positions and specialized positions.. positions which need practice, positions which require hmm...mental stability or mental stamina or "no fear attribute, man vs giant" positions like the front row :
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positions which require practice and specialised front row/ hooker/first five eg dan carter jonny wilkinson etc..

other team sports with individual roles??
american football

and.. netball..goal shoot goal defence positions etc..