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16 Jan 2010, 9:06 pm

That those who call aspies "ret*ds" couldn't tell you the medical definition of mental retardation? In addition, many of those people write as if they were semi-illiterate.



16 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

What?



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16 Jan 2010, 9:12 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
What?

I mean those who do so on the internet, especially on blogs and sites like youtube.



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16 Jan 2010, 9:13 pm

I think I get what you mean now. Do you mean that those who calls someone a "ret*d" doesn't know what Mental Retardation means?



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16 Jan 2010, 9:15 pm

Most people who use the word most often aren't exactly rocket scientists. Only so many of them can be considered even moderately educated. The bulk are idiots. It is always the idiots who are so ready to pick on others for their lack of intelligence, and ironically, they will also pick on the ones who are too smart for their liking.



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16 Jan 2010, 9:31 pm

It's just an insult to them like "stupid", "idiot", "moron" etc. It means nothing to them and they don't take the word as literal as we do.

I wish I could agree that they seem semi-illiterate but the ones that I know use it have good grammar. I still find them immature for using the word as an insult though.


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16 Jan 2010, 9:44 pm

Even more so when they call you a "retart".


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16 Jan 2010, 9:45 pm

Even NTs take that word literal. I used to take it literal until high school until I learned it as just an expression and it had nothing to do with MR. Some people even take MR as an insult.

I'm guilty of using it as an expression. My ex used it a lot and anything he didn't like was "ret*d." Gas prices were ret*d, me making him pick up after himself as ret*d, paying to live was ret*d, paying to eat was ret*d, taxes were ret*d. Everything was ret*d, anything he didn't like was. See, nothing to do with MR. I got sick of hearing him say it and thought then "Gosh no wonder people hate that term, it's gets overused."

But I still think kids meant it literally when they called me that growing up or asked me if I was or not. They could have called me autistic if they knew the word then but I probably still would have hated it. If I wasn't stupid, I was ret*d. If I wasn't ret*d, I was stupid. I don't think they could make up their minds if I was or not. Either I was stupid or I was ret*d. That's how I know they literally meant it.



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16 Jan 2010, 10:00 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
Even NTs take that word literal. I used to take it literal until high school until I learned it as just an expression and it had nothing to do with MR. Some people even take MR as an insult.

I'm guilty of using it as an expression. My ex used it a lot and anything he didn't like was "ret*d." Gas prices were ret*d, me making him pick up after himself as ret*d, paying to live was ret*d, paying to eat was ret*d, taxes were ret*d. Everything was ret*d, anything he didn't like was. See, nothing to do with MR. I got sick of hearing him say it and thought then "Gosh no wonder people hate that term, it's gets overused."

But I still think kids meant it literally when they called me that growing up or asked me if I was or not. They could have called me autistic if they knew the word then but I probably still would have hated it. If I wasn't stupid, I was ret*d. If I wasn't ret*d, I was stupid. I don't think they could make up their minds if I was or not. Either I was stupid or I was ret*d. That's how I know they literally meant it.

It doesn't bother me if the word is used in a non-literal sense such as "This class is ret*d" or "That guy was acting so ret*d last night". However, it does if it's used in a literal (not necessarily accurate) and cruel way. When it's not really literal and it's more or less an expression, it doesn't really bother me. Intent is what matters more to me. Make sense?



16 Jan 2010, 10:09 pm

timeisdead wrote:
Spokane_Girl wrote:
Even NTs take that word literal. I used to take it literal until high school until I learned it as just an expression and it had nothing to do with MR. Some people even take MR as an insult.

I'm guilty of using it as an expression. My ex used it a lot and anything he didn't like was "ret*d." Gas prices were ret*d, me making him pick up after himself as ret*d, paying to live was ret*d, paying to eat was ret*d, taxes were ret*d. Everything was ret*d, anything he didn't like was. See, nothing to do with MR. I got sick of hearing him say it and thought then "Gosh no wonder people hate that term, it's gets overused."

But I still think kids meant it literally when they called me that growing up or asked me if I was or not. They could have called me autistic if they knew the word then but I probably still would have hated it. If I wasn't stupid, I was ret*d. If I wasn't ret*d, I was stupid. I don't think they could make up their minds if I was or not. Either I was stupid or I was ret*d. That's how I know they literally meant it.

It doesn't bother me if the word is used in a non-literal sense such as "This class is ret*d" or "That guy was acting so ret*d last night". However, it does if it's used in a literal (not necessarily accurate) and cruel way. When it's not really literal and it's more or less an expression, it doesn't really bother me. Intent is what matters more to me. Make sense?



I would need an example how the word is used.



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16 Jan 2010, 10:42 pm

It's basically the same as calling someone "mental."


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16 Jan 2010, 10:52 pm

I consider myself to be ret*d in some areas but not in the moronic sense.

I guess it's just like when people call eachother gay in a derogatory term even though it's very real for those who are.

Makes the issue more complicating when the words used to define their original intent are changed because they've gone bad. Use to be that the word ret*d meant what it once was. Now the correct term is developmental disability. I think though that developmental disability would be a hard one to use against someone who really fits the term ret*d given the pedantic verbosity.


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16 Jan 2010, 10:54 pm

Or calling someone a Spastic Freak.

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16 Jan 2010, 11:05 pm

TheMysteriousOne wrote:
Most people who use the word most often aren't exactly rocket scientists. Only so many of them can be considered even moderately educated. The bulk are idiots. It is always the idiots who are so ready to pick on others for their lack of intelligence, and ironically, they will also pick on the ones who are too smart for their liking.

Well if we're going to get technical on the definitions here, they're not actually idiots. The term "idiot" was used for people with an IQ below 25, I don't think people at the idiot level can really even communicate, let alone express an opinion about people with AS or any other disorder.
The people in question may be morons, stupid, and/or ignorant, but they're not technically idiots.
If we're not going to get strictly technical about the definitions, I'd say that the term "ret*d" would describe my social abilities pretty well.



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16 Jan 2010, 11:07 pm

Thank the Flying Spaghetti monster for neologisms and bum bum bum....

The Urban Dictionary :wink:

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And the word of the day is Towel Permanence:

The need or desire to use the same towel each time after showering. This may be a favorite towel with sentimental value, or the beach sized one that covers all your parts. This condition is frequently only suffered by one member of a family, causing much frustration upon finding that someone else has used "your" towel.


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17 Jan 2010, 12:01 am

people call anyone 'ret*d' that don't seem to be able to 'learn' certain things. Like, classic 'ret*ds' may have trouble learning to read or do math. They've expanded the term to include people who can't learn social interaction skills.

the root of "ret*d' is french, and means 'slow' or 'late'. And in some ways the term can be used correctly to describe certain phenomena when it comes to learning. But in the slang terminology of today, it's become overused and abused to mean 'stupid'. And in the case of Aspies, intelligence or lack thereof has nothing to do with anything.