Another child with a severe ASD murdered

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18 Feb 2010, 7:53 pm

This story affects me so strongly, because not only is this a child with an ASD (Rett Syndrome), but she had the same condition my daughter has. She was only a year younger than my daughter.

It looks like a case of greed. He was collecting money for her, but couldn't be bothered to take care of her. Girls with RS are completely helpless, and need care. My daughter is so aware, and I can't imagine what this little one went through without food, water, or her seizure medication.

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I can't even convey how angry and sickened I am in words.



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18 Feb 2010, 8:02 pm

I agree that there is no words for my grief and outrage at this, I will probably have nightmares about it. It is difficult to not lose hope for humanity in general with stuff like this going on. I hope we can learn to be better human beings soon. :(


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18 Feb 2010, 8:30 pm

It's stories like these that make me extremely glad I can compartmentalize my emotions so easily. I can't imagine how it would be not to be able to say "Yes, that is sad, but it doesn't affect me or those close to me so I won't dwell on it."

EDIT: That may sound callous, but I am a very caring person. I just know that dwelling on sad things is useless (at the same time I do understand that can't be helped for most).


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18 Feb 2010, 8:38 pm

pat2rome wrote:
It's stories like these that make me extremely glad I can compartmentalize my emotions so easily. I can't imagine how it would be not to be able to say "Yes, that is sad, but it doesn't affect me or those close to me so I won't dwell on it."

EDIT: That may sound callous, but I am a very caring person. I just know that dwelling on sad things is useless (at the same time I do understand that can't be helped for most).


That is not callous; It is useful. This case strikes me as particularly horrible because I can't help but envision my daughter in that type of situation. I do try to avoid dwelling on things like this. It just drives me to raise more awareness.



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18 Feb 2010, 8:40 pm

I dream of a future when people don't do that sort of thing to their disabled children.


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18 Feb 2010, 8:43 pm

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I dream of a future when people don't do that sort of thing to their disabled children.


Me too :(

I put the needs of my Rett angel first, because she cannot help herself. She is so aware of the world, and so many people underestimate children like her.



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18 Feb 2010, 8:51 pm

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That is not callous; It is useful. This case strikes me as particularly horrible because I can't help but envision my daughter in that type of situation. I do try to avoid dwelling on things like this. It just drives me to raise more awareness.


I understand that perfectly; I will randomly get anxious almost to the point of fear reading about some of the negative aspects of people's lives on these forums. That happens because I know that it is very likely that if I have a son, he will also have autistic characteristics. I get worried that he won't be as lucky as I was and receive more disabling symptoms and I won't know what to do. If that happens when I think about what could possibly happen five or more years into the future, I can't imagine how much worse it hits you since you already have a child.


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18 Feb 2010, 9:00 pm

pat2rome wrote:
It's stories like these that make me extremely glad I can compartmentalize my emotions so easily. I can't imagine how it would be not to be able to say "Yes, that is sad, but it doesn't affect me or those close to me so I won't dwell on it."

EDIT: That may sound callous, but I am a very caring person. I just know that dwelling on sad things is useless (at the same time I do understand that can't be helped for most).

I'm the opposite. When I hear stories like this on the news I get tears in my eyes. And you're not alone, I've come across many people like that.


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18 Feb 2010, 9:06 pm

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I'm the opposite. When I hear stories like this on the news I get tears in my eyes. And you're not alone, I've come across many people like that.


Yeah, I know there are a lot of others like that (one of the nice things about this site :)); I just thought right after I posted "You know, that probably doesn't look too good. She makes a topic about a child who reminds her of her daughter that got murdered, and I come in and say 'This doesn't really bug me, I can ignore it easy.' I definitely didn't want that to possibly be misinterpreted as "So? Get over it. I can."


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19 Feb 2010, 12:07 pm

I find it particularly disturbing that the murderer had worked as a carer for special needs children for 25 years. I wonder how he treated them.



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19 Feb 2010, 6:50 pm

Makes me want to throw up, nothing more to say here.



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19 Feb 2010, 7:01 pm

She was only five. It's not fair; your life should be just beginning when you're five.


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19 Feb 2010, 8:48 pm

veiledexpressions wrote:
This story affects me so strongly, because not only is this a child with an ASD (Rett Syndrome), but she had the same condition my daughter has. She was only a year younger than my daughter.

It looks like a case of greed. He was collecting money for her, but couldn't be bothered to take care of her. Girls with RS are completely helpless, and need care. My daughter is so aware, and I can't imagine what this little one went through without food, water, or her seizure medication.

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I can't even convey how angry and sickened I am in words.


It seems that it is becoming increasingly ok to murder or neglect unto death those with special needs because said special needs persons are "obstacles" to the lives their caregivers want to lead. There was a case here in NorCal a few months ago where a meth addict decided that she loved dope more than her 12 year old daughter, who had severe cerebral palsy due to mom's dope addiction. The old bf who had got mom hooked on meth in the first place was let out of the slammer after about 10 years, and hooked up with this woman, and the two of them shot meth until the girl was found dead. She was 12 years old and weighed 28 lbs. Mom and bf are now awaiting trial.

It hasn't gotten to the level where politicians try to deflect anger by calling for the culling of disabled people "sucking up YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY!", but I can see it down the road. Forums are filled with people who want to get rid of "welfare leeches", and if they're disabled all the better. If you can't pull your own weight die and get out of the way, seems to be the new ethos. That does indeed sound like the Nazis.

The Holocaust claimed thousands of disabled vets from Germany's role in WW1 who were deemed "unfit". Studies were done to determine the "sources" of "unfitness" so that those people could be eliminated for good. Hans Asperger was involved in such a study. It wasn't all about Jews. The Nazis wanted to eliminate EVERYBODY who didn't fit narrow parameters.

Hitler said that the USA, where the "feebleminded" were sterilized, was his model. Already we have 90%+ of Downs kids aborted, it is becoming de rigeur to do it, and Sarah Palin was attacked for letting Trig live. If they could abort autistics, they would. They are so obsessed with "norming" society that they risk destroying the sources of innovation. The witch burnings of the Middle Ages had the effect that society barely progressed for many centuries.



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20 Feb 2010, 5:45 am

I don't think it will get to that level.

They'll be dead at my hands before I'm dead at theirs.


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20 Feb 2010, 9:34 am

They need to make the system harsher when it comes to offenders. We have no problem putting down a rabid animal, but we're also perfectly fine letting a murderer out of prison. Sentience is a pain in the rear when it comes to these dilemmas . . . Orta Jr should have to pay for this crap, and claiming he didnt know what to do after 25 years of working with special needs is going to make him look the villain even more. I feel sorry for the grandfather in all this mess . . . losing his grand daughter to the incompetencies of his son has got to be rough.