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27 Apr 2010, 4:45 pm

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Although I find everything Megan said to be detestable, I really can't blame her for leaving the table when there was a screaming autistic kid sitting nearby. I would have done the same thing--but then again, I would always leave a situation in which there was a screaming child, autistic or otherwise.

Please don't misconstrue my words to make it seem as though I agree with everything she said, because I don't--I just don't blame her for leaving that situation.



Leaving the table is perfectly acceptable of course and I think everyone here is reasonable enough to understand what you're saying. :)


Yes, leaving the table is just fine. Ranting that autistic children should be kept home so other people won't have to be annoyed is of course not. The other posters on that site really let her have it, though. So there's that. I like how one poster pointed out that since the family with the autistic child had a party of 7 rather than a party of 4, they were actually generating more money for the restaurant than the angry family.



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27 Apr 2010, 4:57 pm

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This seems staged to me. It was the line, "I guess we know who is going to get the higher education and salary one day, don't we". ( I'm paraphrasing, I can't remember the exact words.)

This doesn't read like natural speech to me, like someone recounting their experience. It reads like narrative, something made up.

So, in my opinion, this is hate speech.

Someone who is very angry and hateful towards autistic people, hiding behind a fictional character.

They specifically went to this forum to express their hatred and prejudice.

Very ignorant and not to be fed into. I'm sorry, though, that this ugliness has reached you all. This kind of expression signifies the need for a strong, wise and articulate neurodiversity movement.

There's so much confusion and ignorance about what autism is.

It's up to us to change that in whatever ways we can. Even just recognizing that this person is confused and not to take it on and get discouraged.





I was thinking the same thing myself. Her profile was public last time I looked at it (months ago) and alot of things in it seemed rather contrived to me. The dumb blond cheerleader-type impression you can glean from it seems waaaaayyyy too stereotyped to me. Whatever the case...the person responsible for this is a royal a**hat.



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27 Apr 2010, 5:04 pm

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It would be hillarious for easy-going me, to be holding a realistic looking toy gun, to her head, when she starts farting, saying, "POOP IN YOUR DIAPER!":lol:




Wow Cockney....i've never seen you this riled up before!! !


People like Megan could make the Dalai Lama want to pick up a machine gun.



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27 Apr 2010, 5:30 pm

Megan=bigot. What she said was really hateful, ignorant, and close-minded. This peeves me :evil:...


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27 Apr 2010, 8:35 pm

Her beliefs aren't that rare, she's just very brazen.



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27 Apr 2010, 9:00 pm

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It would be hillarious for easy-going me, to be holding a realistic looking toy gun, to her head, when she starts farting, saying, "POOP IN YOUR DIAPER!":lol:




Wow Cockney....i've never seen you this riled up before!! !


People like Megan could make the Dalai Lama want to pick up a machine gun.


OMG I was going to ask Cockney if she has been to the pub tonight! i have never "seen" her like this!



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27 Apr 2010, 9:13 pm

She sounds like a stuck up middle class American. It's horrible that there are people like that. But what annoyed me too is the guy saying 'this is HFA group, we're not like that.' I hate this division some HFA's have.
I had my share of meltdowns in public and I just have AS.


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27 Apr 2010, 9:25 pm

Horus wrote:
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It would be hillarious for easy-going me, to be holding a realistic looking toy gun, to her head, when she starts farting, saying, "POOP IN YOUR DIAPER!":lol:




Wow Cockney....i've never seen you this riled up before!! !


People like Megan could make the Dalai Lama want to pick up a machine gun.


I didn't think that I could get this riled up. I'm a lot more calm, more.


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27 Apr 2010, 10:38 pm

I kind of wonder myself if the boy should have been brought to the restaurant though. It didnt sound like it was much fun for him, he probably saw it as a pointless disruption of his usual routine, and it possibly weirded him out to be eating at a different time, different food, different table, not to mention noises and lighting that might not have been something he could deal with.


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28 Apr 2010, 1:14 am

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I kind of wonder myself if the boy should have been brought to the restaurant though. It didnt sound like it was much fun for him, he probably saw it as a pointless disruption of his usual routine, and it possibly weirded him out to be eating at a different time, different food, different table, not to mention noises and lighting that might not have been something he could deal with.


He has probably handled outigs like this before and don well, so the family thought it would be OK and were wrong. It is like that with small (NT) children as well. You take them out all the time and get great results, then one night the kid goes berserk and everyone else in the place is like 8O . It just isn't their day.

Who knows why the family was there. You cant have everyone shut in because of an autistic family member. Sometimes you have to get out and enjoy- what if it was someone's birthday? I bet there was a good reason . No one wants to be out at dinner and have their family member melt down in public.



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28 Apr 2010, 2:13 am

You can't lock away a family member, just because they have problems, anymore. That's so 1930s. That would almost be like my mum locking me away, because I'm a masculine woman.


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28 Apr 2010, 3:42 am

i remember last year when my hyperacusis was at its worst- I had heard a loud noise and it was like something in my mind sort of went haywire, and then I started hearng average sounds as incredibly loud, partcularly high frequency. At its worst I couldnt listen to a woman or a child's voice without pain.

It was my fathers birthday and i begged not to go to the restaurant with them but they came back and got me.. anyway we tried but I ended up sitting in the car for most of the night while they sat in the restaurant and ate 3 courses. I wished I had just stayed home.

So that is why I say it that parents with an autistic or aspergers child need to make allowances for the fact that they might not always be up for a restaurant meal.


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28 Apr 2010, 6:15 am

I apologize about the toy gun comment, yesterday. I've read that MySpace thread, during my darkest moment, yesterday.


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28 Apr 2010, 7:44 am

The thing that bugged me is a 13 year-old screaming and pooping himself in public is not necessarily autistic. I'm sure their are a number of developmental disorders with the same type of behaviour. I think by lumping all unusual behaviour into the category of "autism", Megan has created a straw-man to base her entire opinion around. Therefore, she is a most illogical sort of troll.



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28 Apr 2010, 2:58 pm

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The thing that bugged me is a 13 year-old screaming and pooping himself in public is not necessarily autistic. I'm sure their are a number of developmental disorders with the same type of behaviour. I think by lumping all unusual behaviour into the category of "autism", Megan has created a straw-man to base her entire opinion around. Therefore, she is a most illogical sort of troll.



That's an amazing point that I totally missed!

I've never met or heard of an autistic person who behaved the way the boy was behaving. (someone who just identifies as autistic or was labeled so.)

Which just strengthens my argument that this is just made up hate speech about autistic people, not someone's actual experience.


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28 Apr 2010, 4:30 pm

Awwwwww....looks like poor wittle Megan has lost at least one myspace buddy over this. :cry: :roll:


Check out what Psych324 said in her friends comments.


http://www.myspace.com/meganbree20