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Erm, maybe the OP was just referencing himself and what people think HE is for being on social security? Ie. a fat disabled self-entitled leech.
I know I felt horrible when I was on the dole several years ago.

From another thread:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2903841 ... t=#2903841

You guys, I think the OP is the one working for social security. He just doesn't like being treated like crap by the people he's supposed to be helping. While I don't condone him passing judgements like that, I can understand where he's coming from, because my mom has to deal with rude people a lot at her job and I feel bad for her.

That's the impression I got too... though I think it's quickly descended into trolling on all sides.

My sympathy is quickly eroded by the choice of words used and the attitude. Politeness and respect are two-way things.

I don't think this is a troll thread as harlequinsenor is someone who works at a social security office and from experience there, this is something he/she sees as a legitimate concern to them.


I would like to comment free of any accusations of being a troll myself if I may?

In the town where I live I see exactly what you mention on a regular basis and it has made me think alot about it. I've seen physical threats made and executed on social security employees because someone wasn't paid.

When I walked into their office I had run out of options.

For the last 20 years I have gone from one job to the next trying to survive (I don't regret this in alot of ways as I've experience many things in life)

I have grown vegetables and sold them on the side of the road. I have scavenged junk from rubbish tips and resold it to make a living. I have quarried stone from the ground and made it into sculptures, homes and furniture for people. I have lived off the land. I have sawn trees into timber. I have blasted basalt from the ground that went into h/ways. I have been a pyrotecnition and traveled the world doing it. I have pumped septic tanks. I have bottled palm oil. I have painted fences. I have built fences. I have survived eating scraps from bins. I have been a professional kangaroo shooter. I have been an opal miner and a gold miner. I have been an actor as an extra. I have eaten grasshoppers and saltbush to survive. I have cut lawns. I have worked on CDEP (if you are in Australia you might know what that is) I have worked in a tile factory. I have never quit my special interest. I have done things I can't even remember now.

When I walked into their office I was in debt, without a cent in my pocket and out of ideas. I didn't know what else to do short of holding someone up, I am getting to old to live off the land or from bins as I have many times in the past.
To cut a long story short, I had a meltdown in their office and they called an ambulance. This eventually led to a diagnosis of aspergers and I was placed on a disability pension because of it. For this I am eternally grateful. which brings me to my point.

If someone is right to DEMAND social security?

I'm not going to say one way or the other because I have lived the reality and I know what I think and don't want to get into moral arguments with people in ivory towers, but I ask others to think about this. There comes a time you have 3 choices sometimes..........

1: You starve
2: You get help from the government. (many have paid taxes as I have remember and many just can't even if they wanted to)
3: You take what you need to survive off someone else with force if needed.

I can say 100% if there was no social security I wasn't going to starve.

To the OP.....Do you know for sure that the person you are referring to wasn't just at their wits end? If you don't help them it doesn't leave many options.

Would you rather they yell at you because they dint get money YOU think they should be grateful for on time or would you rather they rob your house whilst you are at work or worse stick a knife or a gun in your face?

That is the reality of why social security exists if people want to believe it or not.


Peace ellomo

Goodness, that degraded quickly.

AHAHAHA. Sorry, the post really cracked me up. The wording and everything was funny.

good luck too you

You must not be doing it right if you have fat uneducated slobs who forget to do their paper work properly yelling at you on the phone.

Look at Argentina, practically no government or employment, and people rob each other in indescribably brutal ways just to survive another day. The productive members of society have fled the country for the most part, and those left simply slaughter each other for a few pesos. While the Republicans may want a brutal pirate society where might makes right, they should be careful what they wish for, since the hand that gives them their wealth also takes. If the wealthy have to live behind walls on mountaintops, and travel in a half dozen armored SUVs loaded with machine gun toting bodyguards, and even all THAT doesn't stop them from becoming victims of crime, then there's really no point in calling such a society a civilization. Nobody sane would want to live like that, unless they were a true sociopath and could make themselves a warlord. Herbert Hoover said let them eat cake, and by 1932 a revolution was brewing, and FDR knew that he had to stop it, so he handed out cash to the starving so they wouldn't storm Capitol Hill. When Social Security goes bankrupt and stops handing out cash, watch how quickly America becomes Argentina.

My 3 year old and 2 year old have jobs.

In defense of the OP, working in a call center boiler room is VERY stressful. People scream at you because they have the phone between you and them. And that's when you're working tech support for, say, Dell. Working for the government makes it that much worse.

People tend to hate all govt workers, even if the hater is on a govt stipend, and if anything goes wrong with the check they tend to walk into the govt office and blame the first person who helps them. I always try to be courteous to govt workers, within my limited social skill set, because I know that they get a lot of sh*t from the public.

They do get attacked physically every so often. My local Social Security office has bulletproof glass and steel walls between the workers and the public, and there are a couple guards visible and more lying in wait in case something goes wrong. At least working the phones, you know you won't get physically harmed, and you can always hang up. T

he "public" they serve is sometimes a person gaming the system, and it's easy to get jaded into thinking they're ALL gaming the system, especially when you see so many illegal immigrants who have their whole family on SSI for one example. If it's over the phone, you never know if it's a person gaming the system or a truly needy person. Manners have been lost in our society, so it's hard to tell the difference. With 6 people for every job opening, I have zero chance of landing a job with my social problems, thus I NEED that money. I don't bite the hand that feeds.

I've heard of people who buy a "month" worth of food with their welfare check, pay the bills, then gamble the rest away only to find that the month's worth of food lasts a week and they have to beg at food pantries. I try to make my check last the entire month, and I come close, but with food inflation it's getting harder. But here in California the government is a major if not THE major revenue source for Indian casinos, from people spending checks that are supposed to go for necessities. People game food stamp cards, buying a can of soup and then getting $200 in cash back for dope and cigarettes. I would be VERY happy to have everybody audited and have to account for where the money is going. I can do so. Most can't, they can't prove where the money went.

I've had to use food stamps before, and I never saw anyone mistreat the workers at the local office. It was ALWAYS the other way around. They dismissed people, ignored them, were snotty, and I was once called stupid because I had a hard time filing out my paperwork and had to ask for help.

I'm not saying this is the experience for everyone, just that it's quite possible some of the mistreatment you're referring to is the result of a nasty attitude by the employee.

I agree with those who called harlequinsenor (the OP) a troll. Given the wording "fat, uneducated, worthless disabled leech", it looks like he's trying to "help" us the way hardcore NTs do it: by making a laughingstock of us. Unless, of course, he's referring to bums who don't want to work and just sit around collecting welfare checks, but notice how that wasn't specified anywhere in his posts. Clearly, he doesn't know the audience he's dealing with: people who won't understand this subtle reference, and will take the statement personally. Why personally? Think about how many aspies had a horrible experience with Social Security.

I don't working in a Social Security office is a difficult job at all. You're protected by body guards, you have the power to say no to anyone who comes in, you work only during the bank hours, and you get generous government benefits. It's like working as a bouncer; your word is the rule or else, and you have plenty of leeway in how you treat customers. If someone threatens you, you just make some secret gesture to a security guard and have the person arrested in seconds flat; this includes an aspie who's having a genuine meltdown due to frustration. So all in all, there's little to complain about. You get protection, power, good hours, and big benefits; who wouldn't like that?

But back to the topic. Look at the OP's other posts: "don't get mad at us when we ask you to relax" (the word "relax" alone is an insult) and "if only you all were as articulate over the phone maybe we'd get something accomplished" (cheap shot right there); plus he stopped posting at all after posting very frequently. It's no different that someone lighting some illegal fireworks, then running to a safe distance to watch them go off. Most importantly, look at the thread title: words in all-uppercase (means shouting), repeated vowels to make it sound whiny, and excessive use of exclamation points. I say troll.

If he wanted to talk about difficult customers, he'd have made it clear that this thread was a vent, but he didn't. Of course, if the trolling was unintentional and harlequinsenor will come back and explain himself, I'd be happy to change my mind. But for now, troll. Mods, lock this thread before it turns into a pathetic excuse for a circus.

How can the OP explain himself if this thread gets locked? Starting a new thread? Wouldn't that be against the rules?

No such thing *breaks out the popcorn*