Autism Talk TV - Ep. 6 - Steve Silberman - Pt 1

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10 Aug 2010, 6:01 am

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Please tell us why Alison Singer has gone. If you do not want to say it in a public manner then feel free to PM me. I would so love to know why that person has gone.


I's sorry but I don't have any personal knowledge of Alison Singer and Autism Speaks. Autism Speaks reached out to me this spring. This May I met Alison at the IMFAR conference. She was with the Autism Science Foundation


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10 Aug 2010, 11:28 am

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Woodpecker wrote:
Please tell us why Alison Singer has gone. If you do not want to say it in a public manner then feel free to PM me. I would so love to know why that person has gone.


I's sorry but I don't have any personal knowledge of Alison Singer and Autism Speaks. Autism Speaks reached out to me this spring. This May I met Alison at the IMFAR conference. She was with the Autism Science Foundation


I'm banking on the public homicidal ideation thingy. Never bodes well for the career.


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10 Aug 2010, 2:27 pm

According to the statement she made at the time, Alison Singer left Autism Speaks because she disagreed with their continued focus on vaccines as a likely cause of autism:

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“It has been an honor and a pleasure to help to build this
organization into the preeminent autism advocacy group—the group
that has, in fact, elevated the word “autism” to the global
vocabulary,” said Singer. “I am grateful to Autism Speaks founders Bob
and Suzanne Wright for their leadership, insight, commitment and for
the tremendous support and love they have shown to my family and me.”

“However, for some time I have had concerns about Autism Speaks’
policy on vaccine research. Dozens of credible scientific studies have
exonerated vaccines as a cause of autism. I believe we must devote
limited funding to more promising areas of autism research.”


http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2009/0 ... sm-speaks/Left Brain Right Brain


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13 Aug 2010, 7:03 am

I think it is a good idea to try to change Autism Speaks from the inside. It is the best way to change the attitude in society, as most NTs will not go here to get their information. I've been on their boards, and receive their emails since a while back, but I have limited time for doing anything productive. In fact, I prefer to voice my rather radical ideas on my site & blog instead.



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16 Aug 2010, 12:51 pm

I don't mind if we have dialogues and debates with Autism Speaks, because there are things we can learn from each other and movements that don't try to understand and communicate effectively with their opponents (and that's what Autism Speaks should be at this time) get dogmatic and stagnant. I liked hearing the arguments of Peter Bell, although he does strike me as somewhat phony, and i thoroughly enjoyed the interview with Geraldine Dawson. She seems much more in-line with our position than that of Autism Speaks, and i wonder what she's doing there, of all the awareness organizations there are.
But why the hell is an episode of Autism Talk TV being sponsored by that organization? There are fundamental ideological differences between Wrongplanet and Autism Speaks. We are by autistics, and primarily for autistics. Their demographic is parents and professionals, and they DO NOT HAVE AUTISTIC PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF POWER. They support a "cure," treat autism like a conventional "illness," and do not recognize aspergians and the high-functioning as even being autistic. Our site recognizes everyone on the spectrum, plus those with ADD, PDD, etc. This is what i was told about the site's mission, and the reason for our disagreement with Autism Speaks. Was that all propaganda?
If they want to reconcile with us, they should publicly take back their offensive positions. If they have done that, good for them. If not, they are not our "friends" and we should not take their sponsorship money.
No one can force Autism Speaks to change, they have to want to. As long as they are the group they are, we have to present a real alternative.



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17 Aug 2010, 11:51 am

I doubt very much that Autism Speaks will change its core values. It doesn't believe that autism should exist. Attempting to sue activists who spoke out against it didn't work. Now it's trying another tactic. Attempting to negotiate with these people won't change them; it will only change us. It will turn us into Uncle Toms.



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28 Aug 2010, 2:24 am

Alison Singer wanted to drive off the bridge because she was in despair and probably majorly depressed, this does happen. Also having thoughts about things that you would never do is not unusual I would have thought.



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29 Aug 2010, 1:53 pm

This is a great interview guys. I'm looking forward to watching part-two. My THANKS to everyone involved. :)



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06 Sep 2010, 4:53 am

What a wonderful interview with Steve. It's encouraging to think we have contributed to society.

Also, if Alex wants to interview Autism Speaks then so be it, it's his website after all. If it weren't for him we wouldn't have this "autistic haven" we call Wrong Planet. Thanks Alex for providing us with this website and the interviews, etc!



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06 Sep 2010, 11:08 am

thanks guys! Part 2 is now on the front page.


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07 Sep 2010, 1:50 pm

hello



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11 Sep 2010, 2:24 am

i think jack is good looking, i mean his t-shirt is nice :wink:



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11 Sep 2010, 6:53 pm

richardbenson wrote:
i think jack is good looking, i mean his t-shirt is nice :wink:

Maybe you should <inappropriate comment deleted>.



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11 Sep 2010, 7:10 pm

lau wrote:
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we didn't sell out anything. accepting underwriting support does not mean that the underwriters have any editorial influence on the content.

... and if you were to accept "underwriting support" from slave traders, it would not in any way mean you approved of slavery?

(Substitute any reprehensible group/practice of your choice.)
Excellent point Lau.



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12 Sep 2010, 6:33 pm

velodog wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
i think jack is good looking, i mean his t-shirt is nice :wink:
Maybe you should <inappropriate content deleted>.
believe me i already have in my mind smartass. hopefully next time dont try to start s**t with me because you were brutally owned on another forum



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13 Sep 2010, 1:04 am

richardbenson wrote:
velodog wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
i think jack is good looking, i mean his t-shirt is nice :wink:
Maybe you should <inappropriate content deleted>.
believe me i already have in my mind smartass. hopefully next time dont try to start sh** with me because you were brutally owned on another forum
You own people on the internet about as well as you keep a job Richard.

Edit: as of now I am on his ignore list elsewhere. Great ownage Richie. :roll:



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