Dealing with a teen that urinates freely in his room

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29 Jun 2006, 1:13 pm

My son is 12 yrs old and has been diagnosed with Aspergers. I know he isn't actually a teen yet but I am dealing with issues that I worry about being in junior high. First of all, he is a very functional boy. The main issues I have such a difficult time with raising him is his frequent spats with asthma/lack of oxygen issues and his toiletry habits. He has always bedwet, which is bad enough. He has also had reoccuring episodes of smearing his feaces on his bedroom and bathroom walls. He wears pull-ups at night and takes a bath every morning. But what I have never been able to teach him is to dispose of the wet pull-up in the morning. I have tried everything I could think of. He hasn't smeared his feaces in the longest time period ever but decided to start urinating freely in his room (ie. stood up and peed on his bed). He is very gross that I get frustrated, give up or threaten him physically. Never do get physical because any other time he is such a sweetheart, I can't hurt him. Even when he was younger, spanking him made me in a depressed state of mind only because I knew it wasn't anything he did intentionally to upset me. On top of everything, he can stand spending the majority of his time home and in his room, never bothered by the smell or uncleanliness in front of him??? I can sure use some input on this one! Help!



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29 Jun 2006, 1:33 pm

I don't know either of you so this is only a guess based on what you have said.

It has always been ok for your son to urinate etc. in his room because you have always provided him with the equipment (ie. his pull ups) to do it.

Because you have made a fuss about him not disposing correctly of his soiled pull ups he now keeps them clean by urinating on his bed instead.

Take away his pull ups and tell him he must always go in the proper place.



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29 Jun 2006, 3:19 pm

Asparval wrote:
Take away his pull ups and tell him he must always go in the proper place.

Just be sure he doesn't react to that by urinating outside the window. I once did that when I was seven. One day, I did something my parents didn't like, so to show me who's boss, they told me to stay in my room for five hours. Like most aspies, I took that literally; and given my parents' strictness, I assumed I couldn't leave the room to go to the bathroom either. So I found a "solution." Long story short, if your son is as resourceful as I was as a kid, make sure he doesn't resort to this solution as well.

If you chuckled, laughed, or even fell off your chair from laughing too hard from. You'll laugh even harder when I tell you that I lived on the 5th floor of an apartment building. Let this be a lesson to you: kids are a lot more resourceful than adults give them credit for.



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29 Jun 2006, 3:20 pm

(This from an old aspie batchelor, so what do I know?)

I would be tempted, having checked that it wouldn't aggravate any asthma question, not to make a fuss over urinating etc. but simply and calmly dose the room each time with an effective disinfectant, something with a distinct and persistent antiseptic odour.

If he doesn't like it, (which would be the intent) then all he has to do is not make it's use necessary.



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29 Jun 2006, 3:35 pm

I am having the same problems with my 6 year old daughter, who is nt. She'll just be sitting on the floor in front of you and get this face, and you know, she just sat there and peed on the carpet through her clothes. She also had started bedwetting. She had been fully trained at 3 or 3.5, this started the summer she turned 5, about a year later.

There was no family changes, and we've had her checked out medically. I refuse to resort to pull ups because I don't want to give her the idea its OK. We gave her to her 7th bday as a cut off (4 weeks from now). Otherwise we're heading to counselling.

I know in the beginning I was able to slow it down by removing from her diet all caffeine (including chocolate), and anything containing saccharine or the "blue" stuff, they all stimulate the bladder. It helped.

I would be very careful with the cleaning solvents. I'm an asthmatic, and many of those can send me off wheezing. I can't even stand many air freshners.

You say he's a very "functional" boy. I'm not sure what that means exactly. Does he have any supports/accomodations in school? My neighbor's son is very "functional", he has no bathroom issues, but he's completely nonverbal and shakes a noisy stuffed toy at you if you talk to him, yet he blogs daily - and it's some great insightful stuff.


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29 Jun 2006, 4:36 pm

hiya,


WARNING INCREDIBLY WIERD POST COMING UP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

i use to wear nappies for wetting, and after time i get use to them and they became a comfort item. I am 16 now and i still wear them quite alot, even though the accidents have gone down in frequency i still far moe comfrtable in on of my nappie rather than not.

have you tries asking him why he does it? rather than look for a solution how about looking at the cuase? Is there somthing that make him do it? does he like the warmness? does he like the smeel, does he find having this ' control ' over his enviroment comforting?


i hope this helps and i havent freaked you out to much

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29 Jun 2006, 6:36 pm

KrazyNut wrote:
My son is 12 yrs old and has been diagnosed with Aspergers. I know he isn't actually a teen yet but I am dealing with issues that I worry about being in junior high. First of all, he is a very functional boy. The main issues I have such a difficult time with raising him is his frequent spats with asthma/lack of oxygen issues and his toiletry habits. He has always bedwet, which is bad enough. He has also had reoccuring episodes of smearing his feaces on his bedroom and bathroom walls. He wears pull-ups at night and takes a bath every morning. But what I have never been able to teach him is to dispose of the wet pull-up in the morning. I have tried everything I could think of. He hasn't smeared his feaces in the longest time period ever but decided to start urinating freely in his room (ie. stood up and peed on his bed). He is very gross that I get frustrated, give up or threaten him physically. Never do get physical because any other time he is such a sweetheart, I can't hurt him. Even when he was younger, spanking him made me in a depressed state of mind only because I knew it wasn't anything he did intentionally to upset me. On top of everything, he can stand spending the majority of his time home and in his room, never bothered by the smell or uncleanliness in front of him??? I can sure use some input on this one! Help!


Um,.... In all seriousness........It sound's like he's marking his territory.

I had a bed wetting problem too. My mother absolutely smothered me as a kid. The bedwetting was a psycological reaction.

Are you giving your son enough personal space?? Do YOU smother him?? Are you a good diciplinarian or do you wait untill you're mad to spank/dicipline??


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29 Jun 2006, 10:44 pm

Have you tried all of the common tricks of rewards for going to the bathroom? Of course, the reward has to be something highly desirable. Is it possible that he finds the bathroom an unpleasant place? How about giving him a chamberpot? Have you explained in detail about germs? Does he know that his body is getting rid of harmful wastes when he defecates or urinates? Does he understand that the wastes have to be put in the proper place or they may cause sickness? Does he enjoy video games? Is there any way you could relate this to a video game?

If all else fails, make him help clean up his mess. My son used to pull off his dirty diaper and just slap it down on the floor wherever he happened to be. I started making him clean it up. Of course, he didn't want to so I had to "make" him do it "hand over hand". It didn't take long before he began telling me he was soiled instead of taking matters into his own hands! He wasn't fully trained until late into his fourth year. I had to reward him with M & Ms!


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