Do Aspies Run The World?
Creepy. I think I read your mind... or you read mine or something.
Even weirder is that I had the theme tune in my head too.
This must be part of some kind of plot... To take over the world!
*cue theme tune*
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This must be part of some kind of plot... To take over the world!
*cue theme tune*
OK. This is bad. I only remember the first few words of the theme and it keeps going over and over in my head.
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When God made me He didn't use a mold. I'm FREEHAND baby!
The road to my hell is paved with your good intentions.
This must be part of some kind of plot... To take over the world!
*cue theme tune*
OK. This is bad. I only remember the first few words of the theme and it keeps going over and over in my head.
All part of the plot
I am a Jewish Aspie. Fear me for I truly run the world!
Nah, I don't think Aspies control the world, but I do think a disproportionate number of them make significant contributions and I think it owes to our inherent inability to conform. If were not aware of social norms, how can we comply with them? And if normal ways of thinking are factored into them, then we're an entire group that thinks outside of the box -- whether or not we choose to.
I think the world is a better place for having Aspies in it, but I don't think any one group can be said to run the world.
This thread is intended to make us feel better about ourselves and encourage self-advocacy.
When I say "run the world" it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. I'm just saying we should be proud of our differences, and we matter!
Pretty much every inventor, scientist, and innovator you can think of, Einstein, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Isaac Asimov, Mozart, displayed signs of HFA. It is indeed safe to say that it's *possible* that virtually all of the technology we use came from Aspergian brains. It's not "worthless anecdotal evidence."
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When I say "run the world" it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. I'm just saying we should be proud of our differences, and we matter!
Sorry for being literal
I don't need to build false perceptions of reality to feel better.
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Pretty much every inventor, scientist, and innovator you can think of, Einstein, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Isaac Asimov, Mozart, displayed signs of HFA. It is indeed safe to say that it's *possible* that virtually all of the technology we use came from Aspergian brains. It's not "worthless anecdotal evidence."
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Where is your evidence? In your list, only Zuckerberg and Gates are alive and available for scientific scrutiny. All the others are limited to third party descriptions of their behaviors. This is worse than anecdotal. It is hearsay.
The irony here is that you hold up as examples of aspie greatness icons of lucid thinking and innovation using an argument devoid of lucidity and innovation.
Don't get me wrong. There are things about my autistic perceptions and processing that I would not abandon if accepting cure required it. But that in no way forces me to accept ridiculous assertions of no material value.
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Actually, your claim is the epitome of anecdotal evidence.
from wiki:
(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion.
In both cases the conclusion is unreliable; it may not be untrue, but it doesn't follow from the "evidence".
Evidence can be anecdotal in both senses: "Goat yogurt prolongs life: I heard that a man in a mountain village who ate only yogurt lived to 120."
The term is often used in contrast to scientific evidence, such as evidence-based medicine, which are types of formal accounts. Some anecdotal evidence does not qualify as scientific evidence because its nature prevents it from being investigated using the scientific method. Misuse of anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy and is sometimes informally referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc. Compare with hasty generalization). Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; statistical evidence can more accurately determine how typical something is.
Since there is no scientific study to either prove or disprove your claims, I will counter your argument with my own personal anecdotes on the matter.
I say this as someone who has spent a decade in scientific research.
It is a total myth that scientific labs are inhabited by introverted, socially awkward AS-like individuals. We are a minority there just like everywhere else in the world.
In my career, I have met quite a few extremely brilliant people (with IQs that were off the charts) who used their talents to make world-changing breakthroughs.
They are geniuses in every sense of the word, with none of the various social and mental deficits that I have.
The common assumption that most or even many scientists have poor social skills is an assumption made by those who get all their information from popular media stereotypes. It is sad to see that ignorant myth constantly repeated on this forum.
The few AS-like individuals I have encountered in my career while good (but not extraordinarily great) at their work, were marginalized to the periphery of their departments just as they are marginalized elsewhere in life.
I would say that the progress of science would carry on fine without us.
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