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Which do you think has it harder? Male Aspies or female Aspies?
Males 25%  25%  [ 65 ]
Females 25%  25%  [ 65 ]
Both 32%  32%  [ 84 ]
I don't know 18%  18%  [ 46 ]
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27 Feb 2012, 4:24 pm

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BTW, Joe90,

Why did you start this thread?


I started it ages ago, somebody just happened to bump the topic. But it seems that male Aspies say it's harder for males, and female Aspies say it's harder for females.

Let's just say it's harder for all Aspies who have social phobia and fear of rejection and humiliation and hate being odd. There, I said it.


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27 Feb 2012, 4:34 pm

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BTW, Joe90,

Why did you start this thread?


I started it ages ago, somebody just happened to bump the topic. But it seems that male Aspies say it's harder for males, and female Aspies say it's harder for females.

Let's just say it's harder for all Aspies who have social phobia and fear of rejection and humiliation and hate being odd. There, I said it.


I guess I'm not a male or female then :twisted: , because I agree.


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27 Feb 2012, 4:45 pm

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(...) Plus (NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT SO DON'T GO THINKING I'M SOME SORT OF a***hole) but female Aspies tend to be more aware of the social world more than a male Aspie might. Women have more of a social trait in them anyway, and I think SOME female Aspies can develop the social trait too, whereas a male Aspie seems to be more able to focus on a clever interest.

Thank you, I wrote about this (or something like this) several times before without any reaction. Now I'm not sure if it's good or bad to know more about the social void that surrounds an autistic person, but women sure know and write about it more than men. However, I don't see why women would be less able to have 'clever' interests. Their interests could be different, but that's all.

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I'm not into science or maths or other things like that - I'm more into socialising, although I'm no good at it so I just spend all my life being miserable. I'm only averagely intelligent, my social IQ seems to be higher than my intellectual IQ but that doesn't mean my social skills are at the normal standards.

I doubt it. ;) Most aspies have EIQ far below the 50th percentile whereas an average intelligence is at the 50th percentile.



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27 Feb 2012, 4:50 pm

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BTW, Joe90,

Why did you start this thread?


I started it ages ago, somebody just happened to bump the topic. But it seems that male Aspies say it's harder for males, and female Aspies say it's harder for females.

Let's just say it's harder for all Aspies who have social phobia and fear of rejection and humiliation and hate being odd. There, I said it.

I'm either not an Aspie or not a male then, because I agree. :)



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28 Feb 2012, 9:42 am

I said males... mainly cuz aspie girls are so rare.



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28 Feb 2012, 10:21 am

Autism is a male privileged neurological disorder.

Research is biased greatly toward boys. This is justified by citing the fact THAT diagnosed cases of autism are predominately male even though it is well known THAT methods for diagnosing girls are less effective AND when girls are affected the severity can be more debilitating.

How many aspergers women/girls have you seen portrayed in movies ? As daughters, mothers, career women and love interests ? Different but loveable ? In the last five years or so, it has become trendy to be a male aspie. IF you are NOT in silicon valley reinventing the wheel, in some underground art culture giving Picasso the artistic finger, becoming a modern day DJ to everything RELATIVE to Einstein then Aspie men are surely on the big screen forming romantic relations BY being their sincere quirky innocent selves.

Personally, i think it's a disadvantage to have both research and media NOT have an ideal of who YOU are.

It might help to simply ask.


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28 Feb 2012, 9:36 pm

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Autism is a male privileged neurological disorder.

Research is biased greatly toward boys. This is justified by citing the fact THAT diagnosed cases of autism are predominately male even though it is well known THAT methods for diagnosing girls are less effective AND when girls are affected the severity can be more debilitating.

How many aspergers women/girls have you seen portrayed in movies ? As daughters, mothers, career women and love interests ? Different but loveable ? In the last five years or so, it has become trendy to be a male aspie. IF you are NOT in silicon valley reinventing the wheel, in some underground art culture giving Picasso the artistic finger, becoming a modern day DJ to everything RELATIVE to Einstein then Aspie men are surely on the big screen forming romantic relations BY being their sincere quirky innocent selves.

Personally, i think it's a disadvantage to have both research and media NOT have an ideal of who YOU are.

It might help to simply ask.


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I definitely agree, there should be role models for every type of person. I was watching Bleach on my DVR today and I began to think that perhaps Captain Kuchiki has Aspergers. He is the quiet diligent type, very logical and all about personal pride. Though I don't really see C. Kuchiki as a good role model, certainly for his talent he is a role model, but otherwise he has some fatal flaws.

Now that guy from Big Bang Theory is supposed to have Aspergers, but he is still just one character... More is needed in terms of successful characters with Aspergers.

I'm curious though, why did type "YOU" in caps? What meaning is that supposed to have. Are you saying I'd make a good character or something? Or does it mean you as in any group of people sharing a trait?



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28 Feb 2012, 11:24 pm

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TheSunAlsoRises wrote:
Autism is a male privileged neurological disorder.

Research is biased greatly toward boys. This is justified by citing the fact THAT diagnosed cases of autism are predominately male even though it is well known THAT methods for diagnosing girls are less effective AND when girls are affected the severity can be more debilitating.

How many aspergers women/girls have you seen portrayed in movies ? As daughters, mothers, career women and love interests ? Different but loveable ? In the last five years or so, it has become trendy to be a male aspie. IF you are NOT in silicon valley reinventing the wheel, in some underground art culture giving Picasso the artistic finger, becoming a modern day DJ to everything RELATIVE to Einstein then Aspie men are surely on the big screen forming romantic relations BY being their sincere quirky innocent selves.

Personally, i think it's a disadvantage to have both research and media NOT have an ideal of who YOU are.

It might help to simply ask.


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I definitely agree, there should be role models for every type of person. I was watching Bleach on my DVR today and I began to think that perhaps Captain Kuchiki has Aspergers. He is the quiet diligent type, very logical and all about personal pride. Though I don't really see C. Kuchiki as a good role model, certainly for his talent he is a role model, but otherwise he has some fatal flaws.

Now that guy from Big Bang Theory is supposed to have Aspergers, but he is still just one character... More is needed in terms of successful characters with Aspergers.

I'm curious though, why did type "YOU" in caps? What meaning is that supposed to have. Are you saying I'd make a good character or something? Or does it mean you as in any group of people sharing a trait?


It had a double meaning...alluding to both the individual and group. I did it for dramatic flair.

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29 Feb 2012, 12:49 am

It depends on the person.


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29 Feb 2012, 12:50 am

TheSunAlsoRises wrote:
Autism is a male privileged neurological disorder.

Research is biased greatly toward boys. This is justified by citing the fact THAT diagnosed cases of autism are predominately male even though it is well known THAT methods for diagnosing girls are less effective AND when girls are affected the severity can be more debilitating.

How many aspergers women/girls have you seen portrayed in movies ? As daughters, mothers, career women and love interests ? Different but loveable ? In the last five years or so, it has become trendy to be a male aspie. IF you are NOT in silicon valley reinventing the wheel, in some underground art culture giving Picasso the artistic finger, becoming a modern day DJ to everything RELATIVE to Einstein then Aspie men are surely on the big screen forming romantic relations BY being their sincere quirky innocent selves.

Personally, i think it's a disadvantage to have both research and media NOT have an ideal of who YOU are.

It might help to simply ask.


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Agreed. Great post.


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29 Feb 2012, 5:54 am

Personally I think females might have it harder being underdiagnosed. Either way life is rough being an aspie, man or woman, 90% of the world treats you like an outsider. People will take take advantage of you, call you a freak etc.



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01 Mar 2012, 3:32 am

Definately males. Women expect men to be reasonably competent in social interactions (or else get a sexual harassment charge, a slap in the face, or worse), whereas there is no equivalent demand on women.



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01 Mar 2012, 3:53 am

This may''ve been said already, I didn't read the whole thread, but it's my opinion that females hav eit harder emotionally, because they can hide their AS traits and even if they can't hide them, they are not recognized, which often leads to anxiety. But males have it harder socially, because they are often more openly eccentric.



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01 Mar 2012, 6:09 am

The Aspie that has it harder is the Aspie that you are.
Beyond that it varies so much between any two aspies( depending where on the spectrum they lie and what sort of coping skills they have) that attempting to compare entire genders is a non-starter



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01 Mar 2012, 1:10 pm

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This may''ve been said already, I didn't read the whole thread, but it's my opinion that females hav eit harder emotionally, because they can hide their AS traits and even if they can't hide them, they are not recognized, which often leads to anxiety. But males have it harder socially, because they are often more openly eccentric.


Well said.


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01 Mar 2012, 2:04 pm

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Definately males. Women expect men to be reasonably competent in social interactions (or else get a sexual harassment charge, a slap in the face, or worse), whereas there is no equivalent demand on women.


I did not know I expected males to socially interact perfectly.......or that I would accuse them of sexual harrassment, slap them in the face or worse.

I guess I learn something new every day 8)


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