Is it possible to have aspergers with good eye contact???

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10 May 2011, 8:07 pm

i am was born in 76, I was diagnosed with ADHD in the 80's and again by pretty much every shrink I delt with. (mind you I used to spend more time talking with people who I could legitimately call drug dealers than I have with any shrink, although they all seemed happy to call a 5min "how are the meds?" an hour on the bill. ( don't ask me who I think are more honest)
I was diagnosed this year, on the Monday after Easter. To me that is a day when my life began anew, it was the 1st point I made sense to myself, and also could stop blaming myself for my shortcomings (most of which are also symptoms) .

I will look you in the eye, even while talking (on occasion, though usually I just look at peoples eyebrows or noses, I know that they want me to look at their eyes so I fool them) but I will not do it if I am talking about myself, or something I feel.

find a specialist, help your child avoid the pain I have lived



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10 May 2011, 10:07 pm

To put it simple and honest, I am officially diagnosed as having Aspergers Syndrome, and my wife tells me I stare.
So any "clinician" who bases any form of Autism on eye contact doesn't know what they're doing! My suggestion is for you to find another individual who takes time to truly give your son a diagnosis based on more than "eye contact".


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10 May 2011, 10:22 pm

Madmomma wrote:
Hi all, am new here. My 6 year old is in the process of being diagnosed with ADHD. I believe he has aspergers but the pshyc says no because his eye contact is good. Does anyone else have experience with themselves or their children who have aspergers but with good eye contact?


In my opinion, with therapy, some people with ASDs can be taught to have good eye contact, but it often does not come naturally. Lack of eye contact falls under the criteria for Aspergers in the dsm. It is mentioned specifically and grouped with other non-verbal communication skills. If your child still has at least two other of the criteria on the list though, they could still qualify for a diagnosis. It doesn`t mean they will as there could be other reasons the psychologist picks up on; I am just saying that it doesn`t automatically disqualify them from AS. Take a look at the following link:

http://www.autreat.com/dsm4-aspergers.html

You might have read that before, but if not, you can check it out and perhaps use it to explain to the psych why you think your son has AS and not ADHD.



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11 May 2011, 8:25 am

I have heard about LFA kids with good eye contact. I have also read that it's possible to find people with ASD with regular eye contact and multi-channel, anyway i guess is not much common. Eye contact is not the only think that make a person an aspie. There are many elements that determine asperger.


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11 May 2011, 8:51 am

I think it might be rare that an Aspie does eye contact so adeptly that they'd fool an expert, but it's totally wrong to think that none of us do eye contact at all. I personally don't have any issues about making eye contact, it doesn't upset me like it does some Aspies, and I can even like it, and feel sad when a partner never seems to want to look at me, but I just tend to forget to do it, and sometimes I find it's just too much to focus on both eye contact and the subject matter of the conversation at the same time.



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11 May 2011, 9:09 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
I think it might be rare that an Aspie does eye contact so adeptly that they'd fool an expert


That may be so, but just keep in mind that some "experts" may not be real experts, if you catch my drift.....


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11 May 2011, 9:26 am

Morgana wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
I think it might be rare that an Aspie does eye contact so adeptly that they'd fool an expert


That may be so, but just keep in mind that some "experts" may not be real experts, if you catch my drift.....

Oh yes.



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11 May 2011, 8:23 pm

I used to have poor eye contact, but now I have good eye contact because I've practiced.



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12 May 2011, 8:31 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
Morgana wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
I think it might be rare that an Aspie does eye contact so adeptly that they'd fool an expert


That may be so, but just keep in mind that some "experts" may not be real experts, if you catch my drift.....

Oh yes.


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12 May 2011, 9:24 am

The only reason I corrected my eye contact issues is because a co-worker made note of it.

For some strange reason, though, I found out later that I can hear/comprehend someone talking to me BETTER if I do NOT make eye contact. Some people assume I'm hear of hearing, but actually I can hear a flea fart in Philadelphia - some 1700 miles away!

So lately, I've gone back to giving less importance to 8O eye contact and more importance to listening to/comprehending others.


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12 May 2011, 9:39 am

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I've gone back to giving less importance to 8O eye contact and more importance to listening to/comprehending others.

Quite. I've known people who just don't look at me when we're talking, but the conversations have shown that they are indeed listening to me, so I've not been put off at all. So if I can suss that out, what's keeping the rest of the world from doing likewise? Do I have to explain every damned thing to them?



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12 May 2011, 9:52 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
Surreal wrote:
I've gone back to giving less importance to 8O eye contact and more importance to listening to/comprehending others.

Quite. I've known people who just don't look at me when we're talking, but the conversations have shown that they are indeed listening to me, so I've not been put off at all. So if I can suss that out, what's keeping the rest of the world from doing likewise? Do I have to explain every damned thing to them?


:roll: Unfortunatelyyyy...yes, you DO have to explain it. It's just that most people don't CARE about the issue beHIND the issue - so explaining it is both an exercise in futility and a waste of time.


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12 May 2011, 10:26 am

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:roll: Unfortunatelyyyy...yes, you DO have to explain it. It's just that most people don't CARE about the issue beHIND the issue - so explaining it is both an exercise in futility and a waste of time.

Well, it's their planet......for the time being. :twisted:



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12 May 2011, 10:39 am

Is it possible that I have some sort of auditory processing issue...or maybe I'm just selectively hard of hearing in those types of situations :?

EDIT: Never MIND...I answered my OWN question :roll:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt36191.html


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12 May 2011, 1:40 pm

I don't understand how people can tell if you are looking in their eyes considering nobody can tell I am looking at their lips. I have been told that several times.



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12 May 2011, 1:55 pm

Surreal wrote:
The only reason I corrected my eye contact issues is because a co-worker made note of it.

For some strange reason, though, I found out later that I can hear/comprehend someone talking to me BETTER if I do NOT make eye contact. Some people assume I'm hear of hearing, but actually I can hear a flea fart in Philadelphia - some 1700 miles away!

So lately, I've gone back to giving less importance to 8O eye contact and more importance to listening to/comprehending others.

Exactly. What I do, I make (fake or real) eye contact during a conversation (deliberately), but let my eyes wander away from time to time. It's easier to comprehend without reading the face.