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28 Sep 2011, 4:13 am

Do you believe 'Parenthood' depicts Aspergers positively?



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28 Sep 2011, 8:22 am

I saw the episode where the son is diagnosed and its presented as being quite tragic.


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28 Sep 2011, 7:11 pm

I have no idea what you're talking about.



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28 Sep 2011, 7:17 pm

It shows Asperger's realistically.

I have seen about 20 episodes, or around there and while they do show Max's many issues they do go into his knowledge and ability to remember most things.

One thing Max doesn't do is lie like the rest of his family and get caught up in any of their dramas.

If the boy didn't have as many issues he wouldn't have been diagnosed but he needed to because he was falling behind his schoolwork and getting into fights with kids. He did make a lot of progress in his special classes.


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28 Sep 2011, 7:29 pm

I have seen some interviews about the show, and Max's character is based on one of the writer's AS son. From what he says, it's practically a diary about what's going on with his son and within their family. The only differences are mixing that with the plot. I'd say, from a literal sense, it would be hard NOT to be an accurate portrayal. It's different than what AS looks like in my son or myself...but probably a lot like what it would look like in my daughter if my kids attended received an institutional education like most.


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28 Sep 2011, 7:42 pm

Here is a blog post I wrote about it. It's probably the shortest post I've ever written.

http://latedx.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/ ... arenthood/

At one time the show was my special interest.


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28 Sep 2011, 7:45 pm

I haven't seen the show, but I know that if you take any given movie or TV show and ask ten people who have been diagnosed with AS if it's accurate or not, three will say yes, three will say no, and three will say that it gets some things right and other things wrong. (The tenth person is busy counting the hairs on his knuckles and making a chart about it.) Nevermind autism as a whole, Asperger's by itself is such a big spectrum that no portrayal is going to seem accurate to everyone. I've heard so many people on these forums trash the movie Adam for being inaccurate, but I identified with it more than just about any of the other movies I've seen with AS characters.** On the other hand, others have strongly identified with other movies that I couldn't identify with at all. I keep finding myself saying to others to keep the term "autism spectrum disorder" in mind.

** The Cry of the Owl may be the one that I identify with the most, but even though the main character is played by an actor who has AS in real life (Paddy Considine), he's not explicitly identified as having AS in the movie.



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28 Sep 2011, 9:09 pm

Jory wrote:
I haven't seen the show, but I know that if you take any given movie or TV show and ask ten people who have been diagnosed with AS if it's accurate or not, three will say yes, three will say no, and three will say that it gets some things right and other things wrong. (The tenth person is busy counting the hairs on his knuckles and making a chart about it.) Nevermind autism as a whole, Asperger's by itself is such a big spectrum that no portrayal is going to seem accurate to everyone. I've heard so many people on these forums trash the movie Adam for being inaccurate, but I identified with it more than just about any of the other movies I've seen with AS characters.** On the other hand, others have strongly identified with other movies that I couldn't identify with at all. I keep finding myself saying to others to keep the term "autism spectrum disorder" in mind.

** The Cry of the Owl may be the one that I identify with the most, but even though the main character is played by an actor who has AS in real life (Paddy Considine), he's not explicitly identified as having AS in the movie.


I identify with Adam at the start of the movie talking about Astronomy. I loved Adam. Deep down I think I just wanted Hugh Dancy to really be autistic so I could have a chance in hell with him.


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28 Sep 2011, 11:38 pm

I have never been able to get through more than 5 minutes of a parenthood episode so I have no idea.



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29 Sep 2011, 12:06 am

From what I've seen, no. The actor is very good, but the character just seems like a jumbled mess of traits, with just enough NT qualities to make him likable to non-spectrum people. In other words, he's bleeping annoying for this Aspie.

So no, I don't think it's realistic to have a character with AS who can be conveniently NT-ish enough when needed to appeal to NT viewers. This notion that the father of kid with AS is involved with the show assures this is realistic in utter BS. He's a parent, so he's terribly biased and not objective. Like all parents, his view of his son is colored and may not be entirely realistic. I find many parents of kids on the spectrum are that way. They get it into their heads that their kid is in a certain way, and they resist anyone telling them anything differently. Had one such discussion recently with a parent who insisted her son was refusing to go to school out of laziness, and I tried to explain to her that it may be due to executive functioning problems, due to certain other behaviors the son was exhibiting. But she wouldn't listen. "I know my son." Hey OK. How many kids feel their parents understand them? Exactly my point.



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29 Sep 2011, 12:11 am

I guess Max's character could be accurate for a few people. I'm the opposite of Max. I'm more shy, while he's more brash. I hate the parents though. They're way over dramatic, especially the mom. I hate her character. They talk about him like he's terminally ill. Treat your son as a kid, not as a disorder. :/



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29 Sep 2011, 12:24 am

Jory wrote:
I haven't seen the show, but I know that if you take any given movie or TV show and ask ten people who have been diagnosed with AS if it's accurate or not, three will say yes, three will say no, and three will say that it gets some things right and other things wrong. (The tenth person is busy counting the hairs on his knuckles and making a chart about it.) Nevermind autism as a whole, Asperger's by itself is such a big spectrum that no portrayal is going to seem accurate to everyone. I've heard so many people on these forums trash the movie Adam for being inaccurate, but I identified with it more than just about any of the other movies I've seen with AS characters.** On the other hand, others have strongly identified with other movies that I couldn't identify with at all. I keep finding myself saying to others to keep the term "autism spectrum disorder" in mind.


As a general rule, I think lecturing people to "remember it's a spectrum" is pretty patronizing. Just allow people to talk. And instead of lecturing, listen.

And just because someone doesn't see a problem and another person does, doesn't mean the person who does is being finicky, difficult or whiny. They may actually see something the other person isn't seeing. Again, just let people talk. And listen.



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29 Sep 2011, 12:44 am

I haven't seen enough of the shows to decide. I can't really tell he has it but I can tell a little only because I know he has it. But if I didn't know he had it, I wouldn't have even guess. I would think he has high anxiety and gets stressed out too easily. At least he isn't a stereotype.



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30 Sep 2011, 12:42 am

I think it portrays the bad too much and the good nowhere near enough. While it accurate it feels the good stuff is boring (perhaps rightfully so) so largely ignores it :-/.



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30 Sep 2011, 1:49 am

I *know* it's realistic. Episode 2 of this season practically portrayed my life story. As usual, though, the post I started on the subject got only 1 or 2 replies, and this got many more. I think it may be because I tend to ramble a lot....

Anyway this is the blog I wrote about Parenthood
http://aspiefrommaine.blogspot.com/2011 ... t-see.html

I love the show. I love all the characters. I especially love Max.


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30 Sep 2011, 3:50 am

I only saw one episode (the birthday party, with the show by the aspie bug expert).

Max seems much more socially active (in the active but odd variant) than me, and the bug's expert much more rigid than me.