Disturbing trend.

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Came back here and what do i see? 7 threads about chemical "cures".

Just a couple of reminders people:


1) We live on a planet with severely greedy f*****s who'll do anything to make money on you. Recently there has been a scandal in Sweden where doctors have been diagnosing people with ADHD in 2 sessions so they could sell drugs (the litteral meaning of it, yes) and make more money.

When it comes to claims of a cure, caveat emptor.


2) You are who you are.

Even if there was a "cure" today, you would still be you. You wouldn't get your life back, a girlfriend would not fall out of the sky into your lap, a potential employer wont knock on your door and say "You start on monday!". You will still have to work your ass off to pull in that pension that you may have had problems with (i know from reading this forum that lots of aspies are unemployed). If you failed at school because you had a hard time concentrating, you are s**t out of luck even with a cure, because you lack an education.

So, a cure wont be a cure, regardless of how society may portray it. Example: My pension wont be the same as the people who have been able to hang on to a job all their lives, so anyone who flashes a cure in my face and say that "every problem is solved" would probably get a broken nose. Society is still unempatic and ignorant of how we have lived our lives and what we've been through. Asperger is not as clear as if you're in a wheelchair, and there are still lots of ignorant people out there.

Sorry to have to burst everyones fantasy-cure-bubble, but a cure alone without extra help from society is worthless.

That is all.

I want a cure. Any cure. I just want to be able to be part of the social world without having to struggle or push myself too hard. It's all I want. I don't care about the rest of the stuff, if there was just something to make me be more socially confident, I will take it, and I can forget my past life and start a new me.

ANYTHING TO BE MORE SOCIALLY ABLE! AND I MEAN IT - WHY THE f**k WAS I THE ONE BORN WITH THIS f****d UP CRUEL s**t CALLED AUTISM??????! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !
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Last edited by Joe90 on 10 Oct 2011, 11:01 am, edited 1 time in total.

Ichinin, I don't think it's a trend. Looks to me like KemoreJ just heard about oxytocin the hormone, doesn't have enough pharmaceutical education whether in school or from reading to tell the difference between it and oxycontin, found it associated with sexuality, is all hung up with masturbation, and searched the forum for every thread with "Oxytocin" in the title for the last several years, or as far back as it can be searched, and responded to all of them, bumping them up to the top together. Yesterday or the day before, they were all in a cluster together in the index, having been bumped up at the same time. One I noticed, he bounced from a few posts in 2007 up to the present. I think he'll calm down about it, he's just in the throes of a Special Interest enthusiasm.

And he needs to figure out that the word "posterior" doesn't always have anything to do with anybody's physical arse or buttocks!

Joe90, you need to calm down too. Anything you do to become more social won't be done in a hurry, and especially not if you're all tensed and desperate while actually experimenting with NTs -- they can read that, and won't know _why_ you're feeling desperate.

Great response Sibyl. I was wondering about all those threads, and didn't look close enough to realize they were being resurrected. Wondered why so many different people were suddenly bringing it up. Glad I just ignored them.

@Joe90: Sibyl is right. Calming down is the best thing you can do for yourself. Don't hold out for any cures. It's highly unlikely you will ever see any in your lifetime, since no distinct causes have been found as yet. Right now, the best way to deal with it, is to learn to accept it first, and learn to adapt to life as you know it, as you are. Not as you wish you could be.

I don't think telling someone who's worried to calm down is going to calm them down, because then they're going to worry that not being calm is making their situation worse, and that's going to worry them even more.

How can one calm down a worrier? I don't know. Possibly just reassure them or some such or promise to be there to help them out. That's a bit hard over the forums, though...

It was just one guy spamming those threads. Not really a trend.

So what? Maybe it does help some people.

Thank you Zexion. Yes I got excited and was not aware of the consequences of replying to roughly ten threads on Oxytocin, which is a natural hormone, not a drug. I did attempt to relay what I had read about the science of Oxytocin in the body and brain but that just made me look like a dick.

Nonetheless. The pharmaceutical/medical industry needs us to be disempowered and beholden to them so they can diagnose issues which are often the result of lifestyles out of sync with nature, eating bad food mostly, and then prescribe a drug. Again Oxytocin is an hormone, not a drug.

Why have a website dedicated to ASD's if people are not motivated towards a better life?



btw i searched for Oxytocin and thought there were only ten threads about it. It was not until the moderators had a go at me I went back and realised there were HEAPS more. I did not respond to every one.

I am on a special diet and I'm taking a lot of supplements as well. I don't mind having autistic symptoms like obsessions but my sensory issues and my attention issues need to get better. I respect every one's opinions and so should everyone. If someone says that Oxytocin can help autistic people, then don't call him a troll just because they have a different opinion.

I am a part of a social world. My social world where everybody is different from each other and accepted. I was able to become a part of society, without being cured. I want to be a part of my social world and not the superficial social world where each person is a cookie cutter of the most popular member of their same aged peer group. I did forgive society again and I did it my way.

I've found it very helpful to Google "How to make small talk" and things like that just to find things to say to people in the course of a conversation. I've also looked up body language guides, which can help you with appearing friendlier and more confident. I was reading quite a good one a few years back; if I see it again I'll give you the link if you like.
It's not a cure, but it does help.

The other thing is that it seems like your social phobia is causing a lot of problems for you too; Googling will produce a lot of resources to deal with that.

Yeah, I saw those oxytocin threads too. I just ignored them because they didn't seem apeealing enough to comment on.

I thought the theory was slightly interesting, though yes there's no need for several threads at the same time for it.

I'm getting used to the feeling of of a major desire to tell the world something, and get little response after sharing it. People are all different. The chance of other aspies happen to have the same special interest at this moment is not high. I'm very grateful that I have some people in my real life who'll always listen to (or pretend to listen) my weird thoughts.

I didn't even bother to click on them.

It sure doesn't burst my bubble in that we are still who we are regardless of these so-called chemical cures, because I do not want a cure. If some magical cure were to all of a sudden appear---I would refuse it. I am perfectly content with my autism. I have gifts because of it, and I have challenges because of it---but doesn't everyone? If reincarnation exists, my wish would be to come back with Asperger's.