Are Aspies obsessed with following rules?

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16 Feb 2012, 10:28 am

I am going to court soon because I was charged with a traffic violation following an accident. I know that I am not at fault and my lawyer wants me to obtain whatever I can that will help me win this case. I need to know the following:

I have read that people with AS are usually obsessed with following and obeying traffic laws. Is this usually true? Is there any legitimate AS websites that state this? This is the kind of thing that could possibly help me in court. It's not going to help a lot, but I'll take what I can get. Of course I suppose that could backfire on me too.



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16 Feb 2012, 10:36 am

I was always in trouble becuase I never followed the rules and was even thought to have ODD for a while. I had to understand WHY a rule was in place and if it was something stupid, I wouldn't follow it. I was very anti authorian even as a child. "Because I said so" was never a good answer for me. Neither was "because I'm the parent and you are the child". Sometimes I think certian people have kids so they can get their jollies by lording over them.


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16 Feb 2012, 10:37 am

I wouldn't recommend using this in court because not all people with AS follow the rules. I have met both ends of the extreme; those who follow the rules to the point where they get really crazy if they can't for some reason, to those who don't follow any rules! I was one of the latter when I was a teen...


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16 Feb 2012, 10:38 am

MagicMeerkat wrote:
I was always in trouble becuase I never followed the rules and was even thought to have ODD for a while. I had to understand WHY a rule was in place and if it was something stupid, I wouldn't follow it. I was very anti authorian even as a child. "Because I said so" was never a good answer for me. Neither was "because I'm the parent and you are the child". Sometimes I think certian people have kids so they can get their jollies by lording over them.


This is off topic, but i got diagnosed with ODD and i never really got what it meant?



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16 Feb 2012, 10:41 am

ODD is oppositional defiant disorder. I got told I might have had it during my teens (doesn't everyone to some extent!?). Basically a kid/teen/adult with ODD won't follow rules and if asked to do something may just say 'no' and walk off! Well that's me anyway!


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16 Feb 2012, 10:42 am

MagicMeerkat wrote:
Sometimes I think certian people have kids so they can get their jollies by lording over them.


:lol: I often think that too.

Your post made me realize that I am rebellious, but I would never break laws or rules. I have always been afraid to get in trouble so I follow the rules. But I am rebellious too. I'll fight against something if I think it's wrong, but I won't break rules to do that.



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16 Feb 2012, 10:43 am

Jellybean wrote:
ODD is oppositional defiant disorder. I got told I might have had it during my teens (doesn't everyone to some extent!?). Basically a kid/teen/adult with ODD won't follow rules and if asked to do something may just say 'no' and walk off! Well that's me anyway!

Right yes sounds like me, i can't do as i'm told i become very very stubborn and sometimes refuse to even move :oops:



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16 Feb 2012, 10:47 am

mj1 wrote:
Are Aspies obsessed with following rules?

No, not all of us.

Some of us are 'obsessed' with making sure that the same rules apply to everyone, everywhere, and all of the time; and feel betrayed when some manipulative twits use emotional blackmail to have the rules bent in their favor (for example).



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16 Feb 2012, 10:55 am

I'm in the middle... Not all ASD people are like that. For example, I don't like piracy for profit, but I smoke marijuana. I follow a rule a lot of people don't, and then I break one.


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16 Feb 2012, 10:56 am

mj1 wrote:
I am going to court soon because I was charged with a traffic violation following an accident. I know that I am not at fault and my lawyer wants me to obtain whatever I can that will help me win this case. I need to know the following:

I have read that people with AS are usually obsessed with following and obeying traffic laws. Is this usually true? Is there any legitimate AS websites that state this? This is the kind of thing that could possibly help me in court. It's not going to help a lot, but I'll take what I can get. Of course I suppose that could backfire on me too.


I was thinking backfire as well. Any time you bring up a 'disorder' there is a good chance that people will immediately think you're incompetent. For example, when I met with my DSP counselor at college she began speaking to me as if I had Down's Syndrome. Even after I told her there is nothing wrong with my IQ, and pointed out I have a 3.8 GPA, she still speaks to me like I'm slow. I'm thinking the AS thing would not be the best strategy in court. "Your honor, I'm a good driver because of my disability". See what I mean?



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16 Feb 2012, 11:44 am

If you want to use AS as a reason your not at fault you will need a diagnosis. Proof from teachers, co workers and the like that they see you must follow rules.

Just saying your an aspie so you did not do it. Is like saying "I am a vegetarian so I did not kill all the those people" even if you did have a diagnosis.

How it will back fire.
It is well proven that some aspies are unable to drive due to taking in to much info at once and unable to handle it all. There are some aspies that can not even handle being in the front seat of cars. If your driving history is not 100% clean, something as simple as speeding or not stopping at a stop sign and this will back fire big time?

I my self only follow the law. If its a school rule, work rule or social rule that is pointless I do not bother.



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16 Feb 2012, 11:44 am

Not for me, anyway. There are tons of rules in a lot of different places that just ridiculous. It's only the threat of punishment that keep people from breaking them.


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16 Feb 2012, 11:48 am

Nope. I only follow rules in certain cirumstances. 1. If I have no other way around it and would get caught if I didn't do it. 2. If it benefits me. 3. If I agree with it and feel that it's a sensible rule. 4. If it doesn't inconvenience me too much to follow it. 5. If it's not a ridiculous rule that violates all tenants of common sense.


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16 Feb 2012, 1:08 pm

My best advice is to accept that if indeed you did not deserve the accusation, sometimes we get accused of things and are still believed to be wrong, when we know we're innocent and it's unjust. That's one of those unfair things in life; NT or Spectrum. Have you ever done something wrong (either by honest mistake or on purpose), and gotten away with it? If yes, then you might think about this experience as a balance, and maybe can use it let go of any shame or guilt over whatever the thing you got away with was. After all, it's not an accusation that you murdered or stole, etc. But even so, I understand the frustration.

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16 Feb 2012, 1:15 pm

I'm an Aspie who always used to get into trouble for disobeying the rules.



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16 Feb 2012, 1:23 pm

Personally, I'm obsessive about following traffic laws (for the most part). I drive exactly the speed limit and never change lanes in/near an intersection. I've only been in two accidents in my entire life, despite driving all over the east coast multiple times - both can be attributed to either mechanical failure, or the other driver. At the same time, though, I get annoyed by rules that make no sense. Like seat-belt laws, for example. I can understand why seat-belts exist and I fully support wearing them for the sake of one's own health, but I don't understand why there has to be a law forcing people to not be stupid with their own lives.

Now, I don't think AS would be helpful in defending yourself for a traffic violation (I might be wrong, though) -- I would boil it down to strictly relevant facts (how well you drive, your history, etc...). Run it by your lawyer first, before deciding anything.