Do you consider yourself to be intuitive?

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Yeah, I don't know, I've taken the tests a bunch of times, and those are the variants I've got, all strong S. But yeah, all the ISTPs scored abysmally like that. http://personalitycafe.com/istp-forum-m ... -quiz.html Links to other types empathy quizzes on the bottom. Yep... Actually, that page there has more results, but still lots of ISTPs scored absymally.

But uh, I never really considered myself intuitive, no.

Also, unrelated, the worst MTBI types to deal with are introverted Fe by far. Extroverted Fes will usually at least tell me how they're feeling so I can act appropriately, whereas introverted ones expect me to read their minds.

I think the other reason I score J sometimes is the questions on the test are like "I prefer things organized and planned" which I do, but real life gets in the way of that and sometimes I just do the Nike "Just do it!" and yeah...

In answer to the thread actual question: Yes

Some of the information in this thread about the different cognitive functions is not correct.

Ie. there is no such thing as introverted Fe. Fe = (e) Extraverted + (F) Feeling

Also, no one is eg. ISTP some days and ISTJ on others, unless they have multiple personalities. The J/P difference is a major split, they are not close...in fact, they have exactly 0 functions in common. They are very different types.

The MBTI type you are referring to is a shorthand, a code, for the distributions of functions.

The first letter I or E indicates whether your first function is introverted or extraverted.
The next two N/S and T/F indicate what preference you have towards intuition vs sensing, and thinking vs feeling.
The last letter J/P indicates which of the middle two letters is your highest order extraverted function, the most dominant function you show the world. P for perceiving, would mean N/S, and J for judging would mean T/F.
The introversion/extraversion switches at each lower priority function, and the opposing function of your dominate function is your inferior (4th).

So, a breakdown of ISTP;

1) Introverted Thinking Ti
2) Extraverted Sensing Se
3) Introverted iNtuition Ni
4) Extraverted Feeling Fe

Compared to ISTJ;

1) Introverted Sensing Si
2) Extraverted Thinking Te
3) Introverted Feeling Fi
4) Extraverted iNtuition Ne

None of them are in the same order, or of the same -troversion. These are very different types.


On a personal note, I heavily use Ni, introverted intuition. (Heavily) I think in concepts primarily, I learn and absorb knowledge on systems and structures and functionality through osmosis. Specific data, such as dates, quotes, figures etc require a large amount of willpower and focus and repetition for my mind to register it. I am often better served figuring out how the data was gathered than trying to memorize the data itself. My type is INTJ, and I fit the profile fairly well. My intuition is impressive, my sensing is abhorrent.

Yes. Intuition, in my case, is observation combined with logic that is working very fast at a subconscious level. I can always unpack my conclusions later on and figure out how I arrived at the answers.

For what it's worth, I've done the Myers-Briggs two or three times now and have always come out as INTJ.

Others think I'm psychic, because of my powers of observation and logic. If others in the office thought a colleague might be pregnant, I was a sort of oracle that could tell them the truth. I just notice a slight weight change, change to complexion, a bottom blouse button being left open and other things which I can't always put my finger on. But I always know, long before they announce it. I have to fake surprise when they announce it, weeks or months later. It's quite funny that my colleagues thought I had a third eye or something. I'm INTJ too, BTW.

I am ISTJ

I'm an INTJ as well, and I am exactly the same way, bigger concepts tend to stick better than specific data. I've always looked at it as a form of pattern recognition, which is how I view intuition. Grasping patterns that you didn't even realize were there. But I may be biased, I've always been obsessed with patterns and symmetry.

I agree that I probably use pattern recognition. Thinking about it, it might also involve a memory for random details.

I have often surprised people with how accurate my perception is. I do wonder if they're partly surprised because I don't look like I'm paying attention.

Darn tootin

If the spoken or written word was all I had to communicate with I would go nuts. Listening and acknowledging the more subtler ways of communication is required in my opinion.

The way I understand it, the term "intuition", as used by the MBTI, is a reference to the capability to (easly) connect different pieces of information by recognizing the inherent patterns / connections underlying that information. It is a theory-oriented, conscious, rational way of processing information.

In contrast, "sensing" (as used by the MBTI) is a reference to the capability to link things, persons and events at a more subconscious, emotional level. It is rooted in directly observable physical reality and previous experiences, and not so much in theory.

Going by those definitions, I'm definitely "intuitive". My MBTI profile is INTP.

I'm an INTJ and consider myself more intuitive than most NTs.

I can be somewhat intuitive at times.

Other times, I just get it wrong.....

I think everyone is intuitive , some are just more intuned with there abilities than others.

I find that when I ignore my intuition, that's when I get things wrong, same goes for when others try to influence me then me being guided by my own intuition

I've used my so-called "intuition," and almost got in trouble LOL

I don't usually rely on it.

I think the diagnostic power of a lot of tests breaks down when applied to us, because they're not designed for us. I've not messed with the Myers-Briggs thing much so I don't know what my type is, for some reason I've not been able to work up much faith in its ability to help me.

As far as I can tell, most of my ideas begin as intuition rather than as a mechanical, logically-processed thing. Something occurs to me and I'll often attempt to put it into words if I need to communicate or process it further. Sometimes it can take a long time to articulate a feeling, I might get a bad feeling about something somebody says or does but it can be a while before I can fathom why I feel that way, and it bugs me that I can seem so irrational. I think in my case I grew up to expect every bit of human activity to be logical, every thought to be rational, but I began to see that it's really not that way so much. At first it was hard to see any further than that, but gradually I got used to the idea. Certainly these days I can't interact or observe anybody without having a strong sense of what their feelings might be, and that sense governs my behaviour towards them. There was a time when I'd not see any of that consciously, so I'd take everything they said at face value and ignore everything else.

I've heard some Aspies say that they consciously and deliberately try to read body language etc. which takes more time and energy than it would for a NT. I don't think I ever really did that - I studied body language but found that real-life social situations moved too quickly for me to keep up consciously. With me it felt more like my brain / heart had always "known" how to read people but the print was extremely faint and ghost-like, and for a long time I ignored it and preferred to deal with hard facts and conscious logic. It was almost as if there was a set of NT brain connections operating underneath my Aspie brain wiring, but the NT voltage was very low, so it was a long time before I could see the activity and begin to respond to it.

I still can't do that kind of thing anything like as much or as well as I'd like. In particular, when I'm dealing with a number of people at once in a rapidly-changing social situation it happens way too fast for me to process and act accordingly, so from a speed point of view it's not a lot better than the logical way, but I think the things it tells me are more likely to be socially useful. It works best when it's just one-on-one in a relaxed, comfortable, slow-moving environment without distractions.

I have an official ASS diagnosis.

On MBTI personality tests, I consistently come up as an INTP.

When I read a book about the INTP personality, I actually recognize myself much better than when I read a book about Autism. With this, I don't mean to say that I don't have ASS. Rather, I mean that the former gives a more detailed picture of what makes me tick than the latter!

So if I were you, I'd just take the test and verify if I recognized myself in the result.