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06 Jul 2012, 4:05 pm

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Okay, based on a lot of feedback so far, what if the question of "do you wish to be normal" were to be interpreted as this...

"Do you wish to be Neurotypical (but still be a genius NT physicist, NT mathematician, NT writer, NT poet, NT artist)"
- remember the vast majority of university professors out there are probably NTs. And very smart people too.
- you would still have a lot of intelligence, genius, unique way of looking at things, but not have the downsides of AS.

What would your response be to that?


My cousin is like that. He's 18 years old, very bright, a brilliant artist, but also got normal social skills and has got a nice group of mates who are the ''right'' sort of friends to have. He is very lucky. And when he was little, he didn't really play with toys, but preferred building things, like model ships and airoplanes, and built amazing buildings out of Lego, and liked to build big road tracks going around his room for his toy cars. He had such a good mind for construction toys, and never just played with other types of toys. He's a very interesting person, but is lucky enough to have normal social skills too and is able to get in with the right crowd and be liked by everyone.

I wish I was more like him: smart and socially confident. So I guess that answers your question - yes I would like to be a bright NT, just like my cousin.


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06 Jul 2012, 4:19 pm

Chris71 wrote:
Okay, based on a lot of feedback so far, what if the question of "do you wish to be normal" were to be interpreted as this...

"Do you wish to be Neurotypical (but still be a genius NT physicist, NT mathematician, NT writer, NT poet, NT artist)"
- remember the vast majority of university professors out there are probably NTs. And very smart people too.
- you would still have a lot of intelligence, genius, unique way of looking at things, but not have the downsides of AS.

What would your response be to that?


Yes, I would love to keep my smarts and uniqueness, but know better how to work with people.

I loved being different growing up, and was kinda like "screw everyone who doesn't accept me for who I am". But now I'd rather get a job using my talents, and to do that, I need to have better social skills.

Not to mention the phases of loneliness I go through can sometimes be unbearable.



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06 Jul 2012, 7:15 pm

To be honest, I'm not sure I'd be alive if weren't aspie. I may have issues with social interaction, but I have zero panic response when it comes to real danger. This has been useful even unto life-saving a few times.

Giving a choking friend the Heimlich when everyone else was panicking and screaming and doing nothing useful.
Was able to leap out of the way of a speeding car that ran a red light.
Caught my clothes on fire once when I was 13, and was able to extinguish myself with no fuss and no freak out.
Once my 5 year old cousin found a 12" / 0.3m garden knife and was running around with it. I disarmed her safely while everyone else was screaming and panicking.
etc.

So, even if I could get rid of it, I'd probably keep it. I've never known anything else anyway, and there are parts that I definitely like.



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06 Jul 2012, 7:18 pm

Chris71 wrote:
Okay, based on a lot of feedback so far, what if the question of "do you wish to be normal" were to be interpreted as this...

"Do you wish to be Neurotypical (but still be a genius NT physicist, NT mathematician, NT writer, NT poet, NT artist)"
- remember the vast majority of university professors out there are probably NTs. And very smart people too.
- you would still have a lot of intelligence, genius, unique way of looking at things, but not have the downsides of AS.

What would your response be to that?


I don't know what I'd be like if I were neurotypical. I don't want to be a different person.



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06 Jul 2012, 7:28 pm

No, because then they would have won. Who are 'they?' They are everyone who has ever criticised me or most of you to get you to act more like them, more like an acceptable person in society. The person that says 'try harder' and you'll do fine.

I don't want them to win.


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06 Jul 2012, 8:09 pm

Yep, I do wish I was more normal.

Being Aspie, is tiring, stressful and makes me angry when people out in public say things about me that are related to AS.

Also having decent social skills would be nice.



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07 Jul 2012, 6:13 am

I can actually imagine what I would be like if I were neurotypical. Because my AS is only mild, I can sort of take away all my real differences (like outbursts, narrow obsessions taking over my life, emotionally immature behaviour, getting easily upset or annoyed at silly things, and overreacting to things in ways that seem unusual to other people), and also by observing NT behaviour and having the non-Autistic ability to relate to other people and sometimes imagine what it must be like to be them and know how they feel (like how my extrovert cousin feels when she's getting all dressed up to go out clubbing of an evening with a group of mates), I can actually see myself as an NT. Obviously I can sit and imagine what life would be like if I wasn't cursed with this sh***y AS, but I can't change myself into an NT though.....sadly.


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07 Jul 2012, 6:22 am

Nah, I wish more people were like me/us.



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07 Jul 2012, 6:31 am

Sometimes I wish I can look at those I care about and know what they feeling or if they are sad etc without straight out asking



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07 Jul 2012, 3:57 pm

Chris71 wrote:
Okay, based on a lot of feedback so far, what if the question of "do you wish to be normal" were to be interpreted as this...

"Do you wish to be Neurotypical (but still be a genius NT physicist, NT mathematician, NT writer, NT poet, NT artist)"
- remember the vast majority of university professors out there are probably NTs. And very smart people too.
- you would still have a lot of intelligence, genius, unique way of looking at things, but not have the downsides of AS.

What would your response be to that?


Chris, your question has an error in it. You suggest that there are a lot of NTs who are professors, who are very smart and social and so on. The problem is, that this is a wrong assumption. AS contributes significantly to intelligence and creativity. At least to a certain sort of creativity and intelligence. But its the AS people who can process more data and make sense out of it.

Many professors I know *look* very smart but in fact they rely on others in their wisdom. Stealing results of others and selling them as your own is pretty common in academia.



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07 Jul 2012, 4:32 pm

After all this time, NO! I wouldn't have it any other way because I'm very happy with my life. :D



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07 Jul 2012, 4:39 pm

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Yep, I do wish I was more normal.

Being Aspie, is tiring, stressful and makes me angry when people out in public say things about me that are related to AS.

Also having decent social skills would be nice.


Hopefully you can tune out negative things that is said about you. I have lousy social skills and that is why I don't have friends. People think I'm an odball. But, I have pretty much learn to tuned them out even though I have been called idiot, stupid, ret*d and moron. So just be yourself instead of trying to please others.



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07 Jul 2012, 4:53 pm

I'm willing and able to suffer a lot to make something serious better. I would only even consider it if everyone with autism was coming with me. If I can leave a path for those who come after me to follow to happiness, I will happily accept any struggles related to my aspergers. I might be able to get a lot farther personally, if I was NT, but I wouldn't have a unique opportunity to help a population in dire need of help. =/

Being raised more by 90s boy television heroes than my parents has left me with a hero complex. I can't see an opportunity to provide something that the majority of the populace cannot and just walk away from it. =\


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07 Jul 2012, 5:00 pm

Oh how can people be glad to not be normal?!

I think I must have empathy then, because it seems like I'm missing being normal even though I've never been a normal person before....


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07 Jul 2012, 11:07 pm

Chris71 wrote:
Okay, based on a lot of feedback so far, what if the question of "do you wish to be normal" were to be interpreted as this...

"Do you wish to be Neurotypical (but still be a genius NT physicist, NT mathematician, NT writer, NT poet, NT artist)"
- remember the vast majority of university professors out there are probably NTs. And very smart people too.
- you would still have a lot of intelligence, genius, unique way of looking at things, but not have the downsides of AS.

What would your response be to that?

f**k NO! no NT will every be as smart as the smartest NT.
not only htat but NT's are illogical emotion bastards



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08 Jul 2012, 12:48 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Nah, I wish more people were like me/us.

Yes me too. I had probably alot of friend then. Because I can relate very well with other aspies.


I hate it if every time people are asking: do you want to be normal?
No, I'm not even thinking of it. We are just being criticized as a person today, I hope we will be in the future like people who are homosexual.
Have rights and are not seen as defective human beings, like my teacher think of me...