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30 Jul 2012, 12:31 pm

Hey everyone, recently I've read an amazing book!
I just can't believe it. So powerfull.

The book describe "neurotypical" communication.

http://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Earth ... ield+guide

I really suggest you to read it, and tell your aspies/auties friends etc.
It really is amazing, I've read it in couple of hours because I was so interested in it.



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30 Jul 2012, 2:29 pm

This seems like a rather interesting book.
Thank you for the recommendation. :)



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30 Jul 2012, 3:47 pm

I find it very hard to understand, the concepts are explained in a very complex way. What a pity, because it does seem like the guy has some very interesting perspectives.


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30 Jul 2012, 3:57 pm

The truth of autism in a nutshell :D
If you read this you can predict some of the neurotypical behaviour.

Yes it can be complicated maybe for some.
However, I'm from belgium and I can read it in english easily.

It's very interested, because the author's only agenda is to help other people on the spectrum.



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30 Jul 2012, 4:54 pm

Thanks for the recommendation...I'm definitely gonna chack it out.


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30 Jul 2012, 5:31 pm

Looks like a good read!



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30 Jul 2012, 5:45 pm

ty. I got the Kindle edition.


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31 Jul 2012, 4:06 am

nominalist wrote:
ty. I got the Kindle edition.


Believe me, it's good you've bought it. You'll see what is real and what is not real if you read the book :D



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31 Jul 2012, 10:48 am

I bought it too. I've been looking for something like this, I think. We'll see.



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31 Jul 2012, 11:47 am

cool ill take alook at it ( icurrently have along list books i want to read so it will be awhile before i read it)



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31 Jul 2012, 3:30 pm

I've ordered it.
Gonna take 10 days and double the amount of money (yay for NL!)...


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31 Jul 2012, 5:00 pm

Ordered it today!


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02 Aug 2012, 1:56 pm

That was a really interesting book - thanks paxfilosoof! Although of course I have no way of knowing how accurate the description of the inner workings of the NT world is (I wonder what NT's might say) it does fit with a lot of their behavior I've never been able to explain. It is a bit depressing, though, since it kind of confirms my worst fears. Although I sometimes think the way NT's are described in the book as thinking, in myself I consider that, at best, silly play, and, at worst, an error to be rooted out. I can't imagine trying to live my life that way even if I could, since it seems both illogical and somehow immoral to me. This book makes NT's seem less mysterious, but, if anything, more threatening. :(



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02 Aug 2012, 3:27 pm

Nonperson, would you mind giving an example? I'm really curious, but in my country I can't get the book...


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02 Aug 2012, 5:58 pm

It's difficult to pull one thing out that would explain it all, but what at once impressed and dismayed me at once was the idea that the "extreme NT" view of the world consists not of beliefs based on logic but on social consensus, which become more or less "true" depending on the confidence with which they're expressed/denied and the status of the speaker, and that NT's in conversation are usually dealing only in these cultural symbols and their connection to the NTs' identities rather than thinking about any real thing to which the words should refer. I don't know if I communicated it really clearly there, though, maybe someone else can do it better.

An example of a situation it would explain to me, though, would be the way people tend to debate politics: one person might make a statement about abortion and the other will "debate" by saying something about gay marriage: two completely unrelated topics, but NT's see no problem with lumping them together because they are linked in the cultural reality. Or someone might make a nuanced, middle-of-the-road statement about, say, gun laws, but a pro-gun-control NT will react as though he's talking to some gun nut and an NRA member will fire back stereotypes about "liberals". It's not the arguments that matter but the attack or support of a predefined group the person identifies with, and the other person is either an ally or an adversary.



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02 Aug 2012, 6:39 pm

Looks like you can preview it here, and maybe order it too: http://afieldguidetoearthlings.com/