aspergers being describe as mild autistic disorder?

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27 Aug 2012, 7:24 pm

looking though some files I noticed I trend it looks like people seam to mention mild autistic disorder when I pretty much know that the diagnosis is mild aspergers syndrome
aspergers is mentioned a few times looking at the file but it Seems that the word mile autistic disorder is used alot

the words mentioned when looking at files:
aspergers
aspergers syndrome
mild autistic disorder
mild autistic spectrum disorder

any one else seen mild aspergers syndrome written as mild autistic disorder?



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27 Aug 2012, 7:54 pm

Well, it is on the mild end of the autistic spectrum, so yes, I think it is an accurate descriptor of the condition.


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27 Aug 2012, 8:10 pm

I think "mild" is a misunderstanding. Just because I have different issues to some people who are more obviously autistic doesn't mean I'm not as seriously affected by them.



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27 Aug 2012, 8:43 pm

well we can blame the scare of the eradication of Aspergers all together under the DSM-V (5) and just calling it autism. SO unfortunately mild autism would be correct as of next year sadly. But Mild is very much the wrong word for aspergers, Aspergers can be as bad as any High/Low function Autistic Person. I know many aspies and 1 autistic and we all range in category but id not say any of us are "mild" who ever calls aspergers syndrome mild has a very "mild" understanding of what it actually is!!



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27 Aug 2012, 10:23 pm

My daughter was recently DXed with "aspergers" but the psychologist saved us some time, trouble, and money by DXing her officially with MODERATE autistic disorder. I agree the mild/severe and HF/LF can be pretty misleading. I'm undxed but in most aspects fall into the HF/mild category. Everyone who meets my daughter assumes she is mild, but she isn't. When the psych gave us the diagnosis she said here is the spectrum:

(xxxxxxxxxx)

And she said this is mild: (oxxxxxxxxx) and this is severe (xxxxxxxxxo).

Then she said this is your daughter: (xxxxxxxoxx). She basically said she's got aspergers but that some of her attirbutes are so severe that they place her towards the severe end of the spectrum. It's really hard to see because her verbal ability is so advanced. So she said that she ranks moderate on the spectrum, however is currently considerred to HF even though her AS is not mild. She basically compensates and is able to cope better considerring what she must be dealing with. So I get irritated when people try to tell me she doesn't have it or that it must be really "mild". It's not.



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27 Aug 2012, 10:40 pm

I agree. Having the ability to use spoken words isn't really a great indicator of how severely autism affects you overall, and it's speaking on time (or at least before age 3) that really tends to put you in the "Asperger's" category. Speech ability is just one trait of many, and autistic people often have some traits much more strongly than others. All you know when you hear Asperger's is "this person spoke more or less on time, or can currently speak decently well, at least sometimes." That says nothing about what else they can do: Can they tell when someone is trying to fool them? Can they do their own shopping? Can they remember to sleep, eat, and shower without being told? Can they safely navigate a bus system? Do they need extra help at school; and if so, how much?

Personally, I look forward to simply being known as "autistic", because so many of the issues I have are stereotypically associated with classic autism. They're not even severe, necessarily; I'm just presumed not to have them by people who only know the term "Asperger's". A doctor who hears "Asperger's" rather than "autistic" or "PDD-NOS" is likely to assume that I am a socially anxious person with the tendency to lecture at people, but no problem with taking care of myself. They tend to assume that what I need is just to be taught how to interact with people. In reality, my differences are much more basic than that; I think and learn in a fundamentally autistic way. Socialization is just one small area in which those things have an effect--and less so for me than for many others, because I do not have a severe problem with social anxiety, only cognitive exhaustion from socializing too much. When people hear "Asperger's", they focus overmuch on socialization. That's a valid approach for people whose traits affect socialization most of all, but even then there's usually more to it than that. Just because the social traits of autism are most obvious to NTs doesn't mean those are the most important traits from my perspective.


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27 Aug 2012, 11:16 pm

mmcool wrote:
looking though some files I noticed I trend it looks like people seam to mention mild autistic disorder when I pretty much know that the diagnosis is mild aspergers syndrome
aspergers is mentioned a few times looking at the file but it Seems that the word mile autistic disorder is used alot

any one else seen mild aspergers syndrome written as mild autistic disorder?


Wait a minute. If Asperger's = Mild Autistic Disorder, then Mild Asperger's would = Really Mild Autistic Disorder.

If you have Asperger's, your autism is mild (relatively speaking). If your Asperger's itself is mild, then you're a really, really mild autistic.

See what I'm saying? "Mild Asperger's" is a misnomer, or at least redundant. It should just be Asperger's as Mild Autistic disorder.



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28 Aug 2012, 1:35 pm

Callista wrote:
Personally, I look forward to simply being known as "autistic", because so many of the issues I have are stereotypically associated with classic autism. They're not even severe, necessarily; I'm just presumed not to have them by people who only know the term "Asperger's". A doctor who hears "Asperger's" rather than "autistic" or "PDD-NOS" is likely to assume that I am a socially anxious person with the tendency to lecture at people, but no problem with taking care of myself. They tend to assume that what I need is just to be taught how to interact with people. In reality, my differences are much more basic than that; I think and learn in a fundamentally autistic way. Socialization is just one small area in which those things have an effect--and less so for me than for many others, because I do not have a severe problem with social anxiety, only cognitive exhaustion from socializing too much. When people hear "Asperger's", they focus overmuch on socialization. That's a valid approach for people whose traits affect socialization most of all, but even then there's usually more to it than that. Just because the social traits of autism are most obvious to NTs doesn't mean those are the most important traits from my perspective.


I already just use the word "autistic" about myself for that reason - it took me a while to make that decision; took learning enough about the spectrum, but now its quite solid. My (old) occupational therapist actually managed to miss my diagnosis was Asperger's even with how verbal I was and accidentally tried to bill my case with the classic autism diagnostic code. After multiple sessions she asked me what diagnosis I had. I told her that the diagnosis was Asperger's, but I was really looking forward to the DSM-5 coming out.



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23 Dec 2013, 7:35 pm

Sorry for the last reply

In the UK we use icd.



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23 Dec 2013, 8:24 pm

I see a lot of people online comment: "I have a little bit of Asperger in me".

They heard of it, and see that they have some common traits but not many traits, therefore, they think they have a little bit of the Asperger condition.



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20 Feb 2014, 10:48 am

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20 Feb 2014, 9:58 pm

Mild, like a mild heart attack.



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20 Feb 2014, 10:02 pm

When I was diagnosed with Asperger's at 13 (after having been diagnosed as PDD-NOS at 5/6), they described it as a "mild form of autism" to me, which surprised me, as previously I had not considered myself autistic. (Even so, from the age of 9, I had been receiving Autism Resource Services at school.) I had heard of autism, but at the time had not placed myself in that category.


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20 Feb 2014, 10:11 pm

Callista wrote:
I agree. Having the ability to use spoken words isn't really a great indicator of how severely autism affects you overall, and it's speaking on time (or at least before age 3) that really tends to put you in the "Asperger's" category. Speech ability is just one trait of many, and autistic people often have some traits much more strongly than others. All you know when you hear Asperger's is "this person spoke more or less on time, or can currently speak decently well, at least sometimes." That says nothing about what else they can do: Can they tell when someone is trying to fool them? Can they do their own shopping? Can they remember to sleep, eat, and shower without being told? Can they safely navigate a bus system? Do they need extra help at school; and if so, how much?

Personally, I look forward to simply being known as "autistic", because so many of the issues I have are stereotypically associated with classic autism. They're not even severe, necessarily; I'm just presumed not to have them by people who only know the term "Asperger's". A doctor who hears "Asperger's" rather than "autistic" or "PDD-NOS" is likely to assume that I am a socially anxious person with the tendency to lecture at people, but no problem with taking care of myself. They tend to assume that what I need is just to be taught how to interact with people. In reality, my differences are much more basic than that; I think and learn in a fundamentally autistic way. Socialization is just one small area in which those things have an effect--and less so for me than for many others, because I do not have a severe problem with social anxiety, only cognitive exhaustion from socializing too much. When people hear "Asperger's", they focus overmuch on socialization. That's a valid approach for people whose traits affect socialization most of all, but even then there's usually more to it than that. Just because the social traits of autism are most obvious to NTs doesn't mean those are the most important traits from my perspective.


I'm basically OK with very basic, structured social situations, but my executive function issues impact me elsewhere and I don't get a lot of support for them.


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20 Feb 2014, 10:17 pm

Labels are arbitrary. Mine is autistic tendencies (early 1990's). My boy is HFA currently, but has also had the Aspergers label.

I do consider both of us mildly autistic. We have our challenges, but not like those more profoundly impacted. There's no reason we shouldn't recognize our own hardships, without dismissing that others have a more profound hardship. To each as we're able, but without any preconceptions of what that truly encompasses.



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21 Feb 2014, 12:16 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Labels are arbitrary. Mine is autistic tendencies (early 1990's). My boy is HFA currently, but has also had the Aspergers label.

I do consider both of us mildly autistic. We have our challenges, but not like those more profoundly impacted. There's no reason we shouldn't recognize our own hardships, without dismissing that others have a more profound hardship. To each as we're able, but without any preconceptions of what that truly encompasses.


So true. My autism is mild than many others but that doesn't mean I have great challenges. I know I go through nothing like those with severe autism do. My sister has mild anxiety and I have severe anxiety. She's told me she can't imagine what it's like for me and that's what most people at the mild end of disorder are like. I could have mild ODD. I argue for the sake of it. I don't have outward anti-social behaviour or get in trouble with the law. It's really difficult for me to deal these mild symptoms though.

So, yeah, I agree. Nothing wrong with pointing out the differences. When people say I'm too mild to be diagnosed at all is when I get on the defensive. Thought I'm not diagnosed with ODD and don't think I need to be. Bad example.


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