Another marijuana and/or meltdown thread, take your pick.

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10 Sep 2012, 3:59 pm

A couple of hours ago I went to the grocery store with my father. We just happened to need food at the same time. We went to the supermarket and he drove. Now I have to say I do have a real problem with other people driving. It causes me a lot of stress very quickly and I will cuss at people if they do anything remotely stupid. I don't mean to, but my mouth just says it before I can stop it. So we're at the store shopping separately when I run into him near the pet supplies. I had gotten collars for my cats and drops for my dogs. So out of the blue he starts nagging me about the drops saying the collars are cheaper and cost less. Keep in mind these are my pets and my money. He just kept nagging me about it until I started to get this feeling that I get when things are going to turn ugly. It feels like I have an itch in my brain and it's impossible to scratch it. Yes, I know the brain doesn't have the nerves to allow for that sensation but that's what it feels like. As that feeling builds I lose the ability to think about anything other than that feeling until it gets unbearable and I have to start destroying things to try to get rid of it. Basically I have to give up all control to get rid of it if it gets to a critical point. It's really rare that I get to that point now because I've learned to control it or divert it pretty well. It was a daily happening when I was a kid. Anyway, here I am in the middle of the grocery store yelling and cussing at my father, just trying to maintain enough control not to totally lose it. I made it out of the store and survived the ride home, though I felt like breaking the passenger window with my head and kicking the dashboard. I went inside, got my pipe and a bit of hash, a a couple of minutes later it was complete relief. Itchy feeling gone, fixation gone, intrusive thoughts gone,... it's like the incident never happened and I feel very calm.

I've read stories and seen videos of parents who feed their autistic kids cannabis cookies or brownies. There's a lot of controversy over it but I just can't understand why- I mean it's one of the safest drugs known to man. On top of that if a kid has autism and is struggling with basic aspects life why the f**k would anyone care if he/she eats a pot brownie. It's like worrying about your watch getting wet when your ship just ran into an iceberg and is sinking fast, makes no sense. Anyway, the parents swear by cannabis, especially to reduce meltdowns.

Do you guys have any experience with marijuana in terms of it's effect on meltdowns or do you know anyone who uses it for that purpose? Any parents that use it for their autistic kids?



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10 Sep 2012, 4:16 pm

I haven't smoked for quite awhile. But I remember being really angry about something quite a few times, and then after I smoked I thought about it completely different like it was no big deal.

Alcohol often does the opposite where it makes the mad person even madder. lol



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10 Sep 2012, 4:28 pm

it helps me not dwell on things so much.



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10 Sep 2012, 7:29 pm

I've known a few pot smokers and they all seem to agree on one thing - pot is, like, the cure for most diseases. Depressed? Smoke pot. Anxious? Smoke pot. In pain? Smoke pot. Diabetic? Smoke pot. The boss at work is trying to kill you slowly and you can't do a damn thing about it? Smoke pot. The transmission just went on your car? Smoke pot. Yep. It's the cure all to end all cure alls.



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10 Sep 2012, 8:43 pm

I think just getting home and finally done with this whole mess makes the worry disappear for me, often abruptly. So it may not entirely be the marijuana... that being said marijuana does make me forget about a lot of worries I have sober, but on occasion something REALLY bad comes up on the pot and the negative feeling is MORE intense because of the pot.

Also, pot aggravates my tendency to space out / go into my "own little world" rather than, say, a conversation at hand, so I would DEFINITELY not call marijuana a miracle drug for autism.


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10 Sep 2012, 10:31 pm

For me as an adult I find that while it does provide relief it usually just postpones my having to deal with what is causing me to panic and then I do it all again. It would be nice if I were capable of only using it when I need a break but it is very difficult to say that today I should suffer through and get the task done but another day smoke my bowl and pass out. That is the sort of self control I'm not capable of.



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10 Sep 2012, 11:17 pm

It has the ability to both help you, or work against you. Sometimes, both at the same time. I know a few members here who claim it helps them, but it's blatantly obvious that it also holds them back in many very serious ways such as effecting their mood, career, ect... Honestly though, they are serious abusers, who've became psychologically dependent or addicted to it.


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10 Sep 2012, 11:46 pm

For me the cure to meltdowns is oddly enough, energy drinks. Like I'll go from pissed at everything and almost losing it to perfectly happy and calm after a Monster.



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11 Sep 2012, 12:48 am

Pondering wrote:
It has the ability to both help you, or work against you. Sometimes, both at the same time. I know a few members here who claim it helps them, but it's blatantly obvious that it also holds them back in many very serious ways such as effecting their mood, career, ect... Honestly though, they are serious abusers, who've became psychologically dependent or addicted to it.


Just want to point out that if we are talking about users here lets be cautious about blaming career and mood problems on weed. 70%+ of people with ASD have career and mood problems. I'd venture to say most don't use cannabis. I mean we could say some people are psychologically addicted to zoloft because it makes them feel better.



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11 Sep 2012, 1:49 am

Rascal77s wrote:
Just want to point out that if we are talking about users here lets be cautious about blaming career and mood problems on weed. 70%+ of people with ASD have career and mood problems. I'd venture to say most don't use cannabis. I mean we could say some people are psychologically addicted to zoloft because it makes them feel better.


This pretty much. I'd hazard a guess that if I were one of Pondering's family members he would feel that I was one of those ones who "believes" it makes them better but in his opinion makes them worse. Now, of course I don't know your family members so I have no idea how accurate your statement was, but for me my mood and career problems started long before I got to smoking most days. My ability to cope is better when I smoke and worse when I don't. I've also had LONG breaks to check that that was not just a function of an addiction making me simply feel it was making me better. I was basically totally dry from weed for quite a long time and things were worse in that period.

I'm not going to evangelise and tell people to smoke weed to help with their problems - because some people are NOT able to function well at all when getting caned all the time -but it helps me and I would appreciate it if in turn people would NOT evangelise to me about NOT smoking. Personally I am VERY capable of performing at VERY close to 100% even after smoking a fair amount of weed. It's actually one of the more complex drugs because of the numerous active constituents so I don't find it suprising that some people might be totally wiped out by smoking most days and some, like me, are very capable of functioning at or above normal capacity when smoking.

None of this is aimed at somebody in this thread by the way more those people in *my* life who like to have digs at me about my weed smoking but quite merrily get drunk all the time. Basically I want people to let me get on with my thing and I will let them get on with theirs but apparently that is too much to ask from some people (again NOT ANYBODY IN THIS THREAD).



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11 Sep 2012, 2:43 am

I am not someone who thinks weed is bad at all. I'm not here to say it's bad. It can be great. I think in the OP's case, he's using it well, but perhaps there are other methods to controlling this anger, than going to the bowl of greens. If it works very well which it sound like it does, by all means smoke one. I can see how it helps and could even assist in improving meltdowns without the herb later on. Anyways, about those people I know with mood and meltdown problems, I'd rather not blow their spot by going into much detail, even though I've had long conversations with them about this, where they admit what it's doing... Simply put, some people with meltdown issues use it to help their problems, and it does help, but it does harm as well. It's up to the user to decide if it's worth it, and those decisions may not be the most sound due to reasons I have already posted, which makes it not so good for the user. These are just experiences I've known some to have, so don't mistake me for thinking weed is bad. I have plenty of people I know with positive experiences as well. I just thought I'd give out a slightly different example.


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11 Sep 2012, 4:17 am

I don't want this to turn into a debate about cannabis. I meant this thread to be specifically about marijuana to control meltdowns.



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11 Sep 2012, 5:13 am

I probably didn't make it clear enough in my post that the reason I smoke weed all the time is to deal with my symptoms and help prevent meltdowns amongst other things so sorry if it seemed I was veering off topic Rascal77s.



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11 Sep 2012, 9:11 am

Well, smoking works faster than eating, so I don't think eating would be good for preventing meltdowns, but smoking it absolutely works for me. It just drops every bit of stress. That said, I think it's only a good solution for the meltdown kind of stress that's attached to stimulation more than real issues. If it's about real issues in your life that you really have to deal with, it will only make you forget for a while, but the issue will still be there.