I've had two people reject my AS diagnosis...

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Raziel
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11 Oct 2012, 3:14 am

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And doctors can't predict that, they just determine based on the information they receive whether you have some issues or not.


No, that's not totally true.
Shrinks also see how you behave while being there, your way of talking, do you have a flat tone or not, your body language, do you understand double meaning, can you focuse for long on a task, can you read bodylanguage, how long do you need to answer, what do you answer and so on.


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11 Oct 2012, 3:17 am

Raziel wrote:
No, that's not totally true.
Shrinks also see how you behave while being there, your way of talking, do you have a flat tone or not, your body language, do you understand double meaning, can you focuse for long on a task, can you read bodylanguage, how long do you need to answer, what do you answer and so on.


I didn't say anything about those who show obvious signs of aspergers, I was talking strictly about those who don't show any signs yet they are diagnosed.
Why do I have to keep repeating myself?

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I'm not saying that all of you were misdiagnosed just that I doubt that in some rare occasions can't be a little misunderstanding somewhere. Until there are some obvious signs that can't be ignored. That's another story.

Anyway I don't want to deviate from this topic so I'm leaving it. Believe whatever you want.



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11 Oct 2012, 12:43 pm

I have people tell me all the time that they never would have guessed...I think they think it is some sort of compliment, which it might be for some people. I don't really know how to take it when they say that, particularly since so many people seem to see it so clearly.


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11 Oct 2012, 4:06 pm

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I have people tell me all the time that they never would have guessed...


Yeah people say that to me too.....it's interesting that a lot of people (lay people not doctors that you just tell) will give you (us) an opinion on whether they think you have a disorder you've been diagnosed with or whether they've noticed it rather than just accepting it as a fact. I had a couple friends at one point who said "no I don't think so (meaning that you have AS)...... western society labels people too much" when I first told them and then at different points when I did something really odd they each said something like "you know maybe you really are autistic" , one of them said those exact words. :lol: Aren't non autistic people supposed to be tactful?



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11 Oct 2012, 11:15 pm

I've had this issue with family members. I've found that media such as books and movies has let them understand me and believe me and the MD who diagnosed me a bit more. The fact that I had made a condensed version of one of mine and my sis' fav shows America's Next Top Model with the model who was an aspie and narrated it at a time when I upset really came in handy. After a huge fight when we almost dissolved our relationship I was able to have her sit down and watch it and get me. I also highlighted important sections of a Rudy Simone book and had her peruse it.



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11 Oct 2012, 11:18 pm

I plan on keeping a copy of my diagnosis in my wallet, just in case :twisted:


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12 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm

daydreamer84 wrote:
Yeah people say that to me too.....it's interesting that a lot of people (lay people not doctors that you just tell) will give you (us) an opinion on whether you think you have a disorder you've been diagnosed with


I've had a few people (who clearly know nothing about Autism and the fact it's a spectrum) tell me I don't have it. They've known me for about 5 minutes. :roll: I have a relative who is a trainee psychiatrist / psychologist. According to her, I do more than likely have it.

That was a year before my screening.



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12 Oct 2012, 1:42 pm

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daydreamer84 wrote:
Yeah people say that to me too.....it's interesting that a lot of people (lay people not doctors that you just tell) will give you (us) an opinion on whether you think you have a disorder you've been diagnosed with


I've had a few people (who clearly know nothing about Autism and the fact it's a spectrum) tell me I don't have it. They've known me for about 5 minutes. :roll: I have a relative who is a trainee psychiatrist / psychologist. According to her, I do more than likely have it.

That was a year before my screening.


I don't understand why people presume to have enough knowledge to make such claims. My mom is a teacher and at one point she was teaching in a program for kids on the autism spectrum. Two of her ed assistants made ignorant remarks questioning the diagnoses of the kids in her program. One of the kids was obsessed with sports and played sports well and one of the assistants in the program said he couldn't have AS , her words paraphrased by my mom were " He doesn't have AS...I know Asperger's.....these kids are very uncoordinated". The other was about a kid who lied about what happened to his homework and why he couldn't get it done. The assistant (child and youth worker) said "children with autism aren't capable of telling lies". My mom told her the kids would get away with a lot if she kept thinking like that. :lol:

Also sorry about the pronoun mistake in my original post..... I meant "whether *they or *he/she thinks you have a disorder not you think you have a disorder". :oops:



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12 Oct 2012, 5:25 pm

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Why do you keep arguing with me?


Because this is the internet, and you made an inaccurate claim about Aspergers Disorder.

When people spread misinformation about AS, I feel compelled to correct them.

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I don't remember that I told you something about you or your diagnosis, I don't care and I don't know if you have asperger's or not, as long as I don't know anything about you and even if I would, I wouldn't tell you my opinion straight in your face because I believe the human brain is too complicated to have any idea of what's happening in there. Maybe you want to have asperger's. That's not my problem.


It's irrelevant whether you said anything about me specifically, or not.

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Have you ever heard about people being misdiagnosed? I hear about it very often but you keep insisting that asperger's CAN'T BE misdiagnosed and that's a bias and i think this is what you want to believe. Pshychiatrists, autism specialists and psychologists are not some kind of demigods to know everything about you.


I never claimed Aspergers "can't be misdiagnosed."

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And "eye contact" was just an example which came in my mind, I didn't said it is a MUST for someone's diagnosis.


You claimed you couldn't stand it when people who could make eye contact, enjoyed small talk, and were "functional as NTs" were diagnosed with Aspergers.


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13 Oct 2012, 10:27 am

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I don't understand why people presume to have enough knowledge to make such claims.


I don't either. According to one or two people, it's obvious that I have it. Both have spent far more than 5 minutes with me. And one is on the spectrum.

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My mom is a teacher and at one point she was teaching in a program for kids on the autism spectrum. Two of her ed assistants made ignorant remarks questioning the diagnoses of the kids in her program. One of the kids was obsessed with sports and played sports well and one of the assistants in the program said he couldn't have AS , her words paraphrased by my mom were " He doesn't have AS...I know Asperger's.....these kids are very uncoordinated"


That is ridiculous. My brother has AS and doesn't have coordination difficulties. I have Autism and have coordination difficulties. The two may not be related.