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09 Sep 2012, 1:39 am

Today i had to go to some dinner party thing. It was at one of my moms friends house. I was definitly not thrilled. I first of all and so picky. I knew i was going to go hungry tonight. Secondly there would be about 16 people there :( i begged her to let me stay home but no i had to come. When we got there the smell of the house overwhelmed me. I was about to walk out right then. I just looked at my mom. She said that i am going to be here and going to act like i enjoy it. About to meltdown i sat down on the couch. Then all of a sudden this yellow lab came out from the other room and i was just starring at it. It had been so long since i got to be with a dog. Probaly 7 or so months at least. I got up and ran over layed down and stared playin with its rope toy. She over course saw t and started tk play too. My mom said something but i wasnt listening. The dogs name was Mayce or how ever you spell it. After dinner mayce was under the table and i was scratching her head while she was licking my othr hand. After we where excused even though it took a while i didnt care because mayce was there. I went and grabbed another rope and played with her. My mom kept calling my name but i didnt really pay attention. Ahe called my name one more time then when i didnt respond. Then she said to everyone "apparently people with Atisim would rather have and dog the there mother." I heard a couple people chuckle and i just started to cry and ran to the other room. Mayce followed and. Rought me some bone or something. I just walk strait out of the house and waited at the car until my mom came out. We didnt talk the enitre wayhome i went strait to my room and "went to sleep" but i am reslly just posting. I want to know why she would say that. Does anyone else hate having others know about your autisim. And why do dogs and people with autisim get along better than people and people with autisim


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09 Sep 2012, 3:31 am

Because dogs are so much simpler than humans. They don't expect you to do anything and don't get mad at you if you fail at something. They just want to cuddle and play. :P

I like dogs better than humans too. I really plan on getting one as soon as I live alone. They're the best thing in a meltdown. I once had a meltdown when a dog was nearby, and he came to me and started to lick my hand as if he knew what was happening.

Also, about your mother: I don't understand why NTs keep on forcing us to social events. And once she noticed that the dog helped you to calm down she should just have left you play with it. My mother is similar, even though she knows I have AS, and doctors explained to her that it's not just "laziness" or "rudeness", she still insists that I have to learn to "enjoy" social events.



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09 Sep 2012, 4:20 am

Sweet jesus, thread is rife with ignorance two posts in. This is exactly why I would never disclose a diagnosis to my family. Would probably make their treatment of me worse.

As to the dog thing, I believe it to be true that ASDs get along with pets well. I've always gotten along with dogs and cats quite well, and I'd say at least half of the dogs and cats in my life prefer my company over any other family member or friend out of them all. They seem to understand that I would never hurt them out of conscious malice, that I appreciate them. I've lived in my current place for exactly one week, and my room already smells like my roommate's dog because he constantly lies in my room next to me because I give him attention. Dogs are similar to us AND NTs in that they need interaction with others on a normal basis otherwise they'll get depressed and stuff, and they're similar to us in that they are frequently mistreated even if not out of malintent.



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09 Sep 2012, 1:17 pm

I don't know why you get along better with animals than humans, seeing as most humans are such animals.


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09 Sep 2012, 1:35 pm

Regarding why your mom might have said that:

As parents, people watch our interactions with out kids. We feel constantly judged by this. Your mom repeatedly said things to you and you repeatedly ignored her. Many people think that this should result in you being reprimanded and if your mom does not reprimand you, then she is a bad mom. Also, your mom is likely aware that people are thinking bad things about you when you don't listen to your mom. Like you are disrespectful or a spoiled brat. So, she is left in an awkward situation. She knows that she should not reprimand you because what you are doing is related to your autism and she knows that you are not disrespectful or a spoiled brat. But she knows what people are thinking.

I have been in your mom's shoes before. Sometimes saying something "lighthearted" that explains the behavior is the only reasonable thing to do.

I don't think your mom meant to embarrass you. I think she was trying to find a way to make other people understand that there was a reason why you were behaving as you did and that reason wasn't because she was a bad mom or you were a spoiled brat.

My kids both love animals (and Pokemon :) ) too.


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09 Sep 2012, 10:24 pm

My niece once had a pet steer (castrated male calf) that would follow her around wherever she wanted to go just like a little dog. When the rest of the cattle went to the packing plant, the steer stayed and lived to be quite a ripe old age and quite big.

It was something to see her playing with a steer when she was about 7 years old. The steer was probably 30 to 40 times her in weight. Her friends didn't know what to think about the steer.



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10 Sep 2012, 6:33 am

I definitely relate to non-human animals better than I do to humans but it's something that has got stronger as I've got older, I wouldn't have said that as a child even though I've always loved animals and always had animals. I think that animals are a big part of what has saved my life. Social situations are a lot more bearable when there is an animal there, I can normally be found on the floor.
Temple Grandin has a theory that because some people on the spectrum experience the world on a largely sensory basis, they experience the world in a similar way to non-human animals than a lot of NT people do.



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10 Sep 2012, 6:50 am

A domesticated embden goose and I are in love.

Its not like any other love, this love is different because its 'our love'



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10 Sep 2012, 7:24 am

People find it odd when I answer the question "What do you do in your spare time?" with "Hang out with my dog." Why wouldn't I? He's much more interesting and fun company than most people.



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10 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm

I have grieved over my pet dying longer than I felt sad over some people, I know some people won't understand but when an animal loves you there is trust.I have had my pets aggravate me but they never made me feel bad or said or did things that hurt me.
I also had a wonderful pet goose ( a brown Chinese gander) that was my friend.His name was Big Boy and he would sit by me and try to preen my hair.Sadly he was killed by a stray dog,losing a pet s$&ks.



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10 Sep 2012, 3:38 pm

Misslizard wrote:
I have grieved over my pet dying longer than I felt sad over some people, I know some people won't understand but when an animal loves you there is trust.I have had my pets aggravate me but they never made me feel bad or said or did things that hurt me.
I also had a wonderful pet goose ( a brown Chinese gander) that was my friend.His name was Big Boy and he would sit by me and try to preen my hair.Sadly he was killed by a stray dog,losing a pet s$&ks.


I fear for my goose friends safety. I want to remove her from the park, but she is part of a family group, and has a male suitor who follows her about. She would become lonely and depressed. I have nowhere for her. She belongs to a social large group at present. She seeks and enjoys the company of many humans..... There is no easy answers. because of her forthright manner with people, she may at risk.....

Upsetting the balance of nature by encouraging wild animals to befriend humans

often contributes to their demise, as other humans and their dogs/cats are not so kind handed

NZ lost a famous dolphin called Moko, a couple of years back. I think a wide spread national depression and mourning followed, I was sad for many weeks



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10 Sep 2012, 6:43 pm

Geese mate for life so it's nice she has a suitor,in a group they watch out for each other.When they feed one goose usually keeps an eye out for the flock.They are very intelligent and I believe that a domestic goose can live close to 70 years or so.They make excellent watchdogs and are better than dogs in letting you know something was not right.They were sacred to the ancient Celts who thought they could pass from this world to the next( their migration) and I wish I could remember for sure but I read somewhere that the geese sounded off before the last barbarian assault on ancient Rome.I miss my geese,if I ever get good fencing I'd like some more.Mine even helped weed the garden.They do poop a lot,and mine liked to hang out near the front door.Good stuff for the garden.
Surfman, I hope you and your goose friend have a long and happy friendship.



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10 Sep 2012, 7:48 pm

Do geese notice/enjoy human companionship?


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10 Sep 2012, 9:16 pm

Mine did,they would follow me around the yard and eat out of my hand.A baby goose imprints on whatever it sees after hatching so if that's you,you are now mama.The mother goose will also " talk" to the babies while they are in the egg,when they hatch they already know her voice.But they do have a nasty side,if they don't like you they will pinch you and flog you with their wings.They can be very protective of their family and territory.



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10 Sep 2012, 10:59 pm

Yes, it is common for those on the spectrum to have closer relationships and connections with animals than to people. I have always felt a deep connection to animals. There are many good articles on the internet with stories of this special bond between animals and those with autism spectrum disorders. My personal opinions on why we tend to get along with animals more are because animals accept you for who you are and they live their life by logic. There is a reason for each behavior an animal does. To my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong, but many with ASD have a set reason for everything they do and perfer to live life logically. It is just in general so much easier to get along with and animal.



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11 Sep 2012, 12:44 am

Aww, that's cute MissLizard. I wish I had a yard...


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