aspies lying about i.q.

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you are not smarter. as binnet has said you are simply able to do the test

That is an absurd score. Don't you get that it's a joke?

nevermind... i thought i'd extended the hilarity from that answer to the reporter. i was joking too.

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There are plenty of similar threads already on this forum......

There are a lot of good replies here already. I tend to agree that an IQ score is not representative of actual intelligence. It is a measure of your ability to take the test. I do think it has some value, but that it (at best) only loosely could be correlated with intelligence. That is a quality that is not definable with a number, as it is far more complex than a simple quantification can express. Intelligence is so multifaceted, there are hundreds, thousands... of ways to define what it is, and they're all valid.

But more to the question itself... why do people exaggerate their scores? Besides those who simply have an unreliable score from a sketchy source, some people could simply not remember accurately, have deluded themselves into a new shinier score, or are simply seeking to lie. There are a myriad of reasons to lie about it. Generally people lie when they seek to gain something, even the intangible. It could be as simple as seeking to raise their perceived worth to others, or raise it for themselves. I'd imagine a leading cause is a lack of self confidence in or comfort with whatever qualities they do possess.

I know, for my personal take on it, I refrain from disclosing my score to anyone I know. I've made a few select exceptions... those I know well and trust and who trust me, and only if the topic somehow comes up. I'm also perfectly ok with disclosing it here, because I don't feel the need or desire to protect some sense of trustworthiness for my username to other usernames I don't really know. It is rather impersonal, online. But in person, claiming to have the score I have simply creates a reason for someone to think I'm being dishonest. I don't care about the test score enough to purposefully create a situation that creates doubt about my integrity, wherein I'd feel compelled to get out the paperwork to prove I am indeed honest... only to create a situation where I now am perceived to be arrogant for displaying some sort of personal superiority... Hassle, all of it. Nothing good comes from wantonly discussing such a thing. Besides, the quality to which the score purports to measure is readily observable by words and actions... why try to drive the point home with something so flawed?

Now, when it comes to these forums, I generally suspend my disbelief regarding the scores people have posted. We have a condition, of the mental variety, which is known to generally skew the test and delivers results that are atypical. Finding a significantly higher than expected number of individuals here with statistically exceptional scores is well within the realm of likely possibilities.

intelligence is simply "problem solving ability".

i agree as well as reasoning, ability to comprehend, as well as other aspects. we all have strengths and weaknesses. i do suspect however that he took an online test. he is not able to comprehend certain concepts i bring up for discussion and often states what he believes to be facts (usually medical) when i know that they are false. he says genius iq is 160 when it factually is 140! i am too polite to call him out on this stuff. he also claims to have diseases which are only found in WOMEN!! sorry for my disorganized writing, i get very lazy.

There's no official cutoff for "genius". If you're talking about an IQ test with a standard deviation of 15 (most of them have SD 15, sometimes SD 16), you can put the cutoff mark at 130 (SD 2), above which a score is considered unusual, or at 145 (SD 3), above which it is considered an outlier. About 5% of scores will fall above 2 SD, and about half a percent above 3 SD. 160 is 4 SD.

There's also the "gifted/highly gifted/exceptionally gifted/profoundly gifted" scale, which seems to have rough cutoffs at 130, 145, 160, 180... plus or minus ten points or so.

Regarding the term "genius", I think this should not be a definition of an IQ level... it should be a term applied to the ability to think efficiently, especially in the area of original thinking and the solving of new problems. This is why the term "musical genius" would still make sense even with an average-range IQ--because this is a person who is efficiently learning new musical concepts, and coming up with new musical ideas; probably a composer or a musician with a masterful style. Same for other areas, like art, language, writing, and social communication: High IQs do not necessarily accompany extreme talent.

As for what the term "gifted" should be used for--I think it should have a very practical purpose. Children who are "gifted" are the children who have academic abilities that are too advanced to accommodate for in a traditional classroom. If the child can reach his potential in a normal classroom, he doesn't have to be labeled "gifted"; if he can't--if the class moves too slowly or doesn't discuss things in-depth, etc.--then he should be called "gifted", and that trait can be accommodated for within the general special education program.

I have mentioned before that I believe it would make sense to merge gifted programs with special education programs, for several reasons: There are many twice-exceptional children who need both special ed and a gifted program. Gifted children often have atypical learning styles even if they have no learning disabilities. Both groups require individualized attention and flexible teachers. And both groups share the experience of having atypical cognitive styles and being somewhat distanced from most of society; gifted and disabled kids would probably have many things in common if they were not isolated from each other. Potentially, with socially gifted kids in the mix, that could mean better inclusion of disabled kids, as well as better understanding of disabled kids by the mainstreamed kids.

oh, okay

Hi Callista. I thought I would inform you of something you might already know.

I am now a reading teacher in a public school system. Before that, I was the school's gifted intervention specialist. I had gifted students who worked in a specialized room on projects suited for their learning and advancement.

Then, in 2011, due to budget cuts from the state (new governor) gifted funding took a beating here in Ohio. As a result, many schools abandoned their gifted programs. The school where I teach was one of those. Now, our gifted students are no longer served. What a tragedy.

One thing the state just cannot seem to understand is the necessity of serving the gifted. Gifted students often find school comes easy for them. Thus, many do not learn to study in an effective manner. Then, when they enroll in college, they find themselves as a disadvantage to the so-called "norm" population of students because they cannot study properly in order to master their classes. Gifted education is essential to teach these students appropriate study techniques. But, they are now being left out.

When I was tested mine was 130. I think it's just a meaningless number that tells how good you are at taking iq tests and may or may not be reflected by your success in life. My iq never did me any good.

gifted people just skip ahead grades in america don't they? or they can be homeschooled. if they're gifted then they don't need to be taught they have the internet and their own intuition/imagination. like jake barnett.

I think sometimes they talk about it, but mostly I think you can't just be gifted, you have to show you know the material.

My parents didn't want me skipping grades, because they were afraid that skipping grades would harm my social development. HarHarHar, how delusional.

I don't understand your concern. If you think IQ is poppycock, why do you care what people say their IQs are? I'm not aware that anyone lies about it, but I wonder how on earth I - or you - would know if they lied.

idk... I don't care what other people say their IQ is. I don't care? It's not my problem, I'm not them. Congratz on being born "intelligent" (or not). It seems about as useless as people arguing about who's hair is curlier.