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07 Mar 2013, 10:16 am

Can you give me, in list format, the characteristics of an extroverted Asperger's person?

I'm just wondering as I think I have a friend who is the above.


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07 Mar 2013, 10:23 am

SteelMaiden wrote:
Can you give me, in list format, the characteristics of an extroverted Asperger's person?

I'm just wondering as I think I have a friend who is the above.


weird
inappropriate / offensive / perverted
interrupts
talks to random strangers on public transportation and creeps them out
if male, often engages in sexual harassment
if female, does and says things that are just gross to males and females

It's much better to be an introvert.



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07 Mar 2013, 10:28 am

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It's much better to be an introvert.


Agreed.


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07 Mar 2013, 10:37 am

SteelMaiden wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
It's much better to be an introvert.


Agreed.


A little off-topic, but I almost went to UCL at one point for graduate school. Decided to study something else though where it didn't make sense. lol

Don't you think that introversion is like a protection mechanism?



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07 Mar 2013, 10:52 am

I was an extrovert aspie growing up but years of social rejection (and a lack of a diagnosis for what my issue was) turned me into an introvert. At this point i'd say I've found a pretty good balance between the two.

I'm an extrovert around the right people.



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07 Mar 2013, 11:07 am

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A little off-topic, but I almost went to UCL at one point for graduate school. Decided to study something else though where it didn't make sense. lol

Don't you think that introversion is like a protection mechanism?


That's interesting. I tried Cambridge University in 2009 but it made me ill. I prefer UCL a lot to Cambridge.

I think introversion is a protection mechanism; I isolate myself in my bedroom for days just to prevent myself from human-interaction-induced exhaustion.


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07 Mar 2013, 12:01 pm

i am an extroverted autistic woman but i dont seem it to other people. i dont have social phobia, i just dislike socialising like be at parties and things like that because i just dont like it but it doesnt mean im bad at it when i do speak. my husbands best friend still cant make out how i am autistic, although my anxietys and outbursts explain a lot. sometimes i am labelled as 'angry person' which i cant say i care for, i'll rather be called autistic so this is why i am going to get a offical diagnosis with the doctor to see if i really have got it or not.

but i do hate socialising. i may seem like an introvert because of it but i am actualy not. my husband is more introverted than i am but seems extroverted because he quite likes socialising and tries his hardest to act cocky, he is adhd so his hyperactivity does make him seem extroverted. i do love him .

i dont really care what others think of me. i dont have social phobia at all, which is good because i think that can hold a person on the spectrum back even further, may even hold you back from trying or practising to become more confident.



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07 Mar 2013, 12:12 pm

I test as extroverted but I don't think that the concept of introversion and extroversion holds true for an autistic person who has little social intuition.


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07 Mar 2013, 1:42 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
SteelMaiden wrote:
Can you give me, in list format, the characteristics of an extroverted Asperger's person?

I'm just wondering as I think I have a friend who is the above.


weird
inappropriate / offensive / perverted
interrupts
talks to random strangers on public transportation and creeps them out
if male, often engages in sexual harassment
if female, does and says things that are just gross to males and females

It's much better to be an introvert.


:lol:

I've typically been much more of an extrovert. Yeah, sure I've offended some people here and there - but nothing major. Or perhaps said something awkward. But it's more that I'll just talk to whoever w/o prejudice than it is that I'll creep them out. I've had some very social jobs in my life to date, customer service, outside sales/estimates etc, bartending. I've never sexually harassed anyone - that's seems to be a pretty weird thing to put down on a definitive list of extroverted AS traits to me.

Meanwhile, my twin brother is much more introverted and reserved/shy. He'll keep to himself a lot more, not talk as much nor to as many people, never cared to talk on the phone at all when we were younger - now he has an inside sales job he's been at for 8 years and spends his time selling on the phone and via email and does quite well with it.



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07 Mar 2013, 2:18 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
SteelMaiden wrote:
Can you give me, in list format, the characteristics of an extroverted Asperger's person?

I'm just wondering as I think I have a friend who is the above.


weird
inappropriate / offensive / perverted
interrupts
talks to random strangers on public transportation and creeps them out
if male, often engages in sexual harassment
if female, does and says things that are just gross to males and females

It's much better to be an introvert.


:lol:

I've typically been much more of an extrovert. Yeah, sure I've offended some people here and there - but nothing major. Or perhaps said something awkward. But it's more that I'll just talk to whoever w/o prejudice than it is that I'll creep them out. I've had some very social jobs in my life to date, customer service, outside sales/estimates etc, bartending. I've never sexually harassed anyone - that's seems to be a pretty weird thing to put down on a definitive list of extroverted AS traits to me.

Meanwhile, my twin brother is much more introverted and reserved/shy. He'll keep to himself a lot more, not talk as much nor to as many people, never cared to talk on the phone at all when we were younger - now he has an inside sales job he's been at for 8 years and spends his time selling on the phone and via email and does quite well with it.


I'm an extroverted Aspie and I don't do any of those gross, weird and creepy things. I also don't do debates with anyone so if anybody tries to debate me what I've said, I'll just ignore them.


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07 Mar 2013, 2:33 pm

SteelMaiden wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
A little off-topic, but I almost went to UCL at one point for graduate school. Decided to study something else though where it didn't make sense. lol

Don't you think that introversion is like a protection mechanism?


That's interesting. I tried Cambridge University in 2009 but it made me ill. I prefer UCL a lot to Cambridge.

I think introversion is a protection mechanism; I isolate myself in my bedroom for days just to prevent myself from human-interaction-induced exhaustion.


Do you feel that being around people actually makes your social skills worse? Pretty counterintuitive, right? The more I'm around people, even over the course of a month, the worse my social skills get. I've learned, like you, the importance of limiting exposure.



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07 Mar 2013, 4:05 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
I was an extrovert aspie growing up but years of social rejection (and a lack of a diagnosis for what my issue was) turned me into an introvert. At this point i'd say I've found a pretty good balance between the two.

I'm an extrovert around the right people.


Same here. As a kid, I was really outspoken, but I got bullied so shut down. Now I'm extrovert around people I trust



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07 Mar 2013, 6:41 pm

I think I met one in college. He'd talk anyone's ear off happily about his special interests, make up wildly exaggerated stories (either that or he was really good buddies with Greg Street, who knows... :roll: ), tell you his life story right away, loud, childish and childlike, big, public mood swings.

I used to think it would suck to be an extroverted aspie because you would need friends you couldn't get, but it actually seems this world is kinder to outgoing, awkward people than to people like me who only want to be left alone. I seem to inspire curiosity and people trying to get me "out of my shell", only, when they succeed, to decide I'm disgusting and stomp on me.



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08 Mar 2013, 4:30 am

Tyri0n wrote:
SteelMaiden wrote:
Can you give me, in list format, the characteristics of an extroverted Asperger's person?

I'm just wondering as I think I have a friend who is the above.


weird
inappropriate / offensive / perverted
interrupts
talks to random strangers on public transportation and creeps them out
if male, often engages in sexual harassment
if female, does and says things that are just gross to males and females

It's much better to be an introvert.

your list is flawed. you don't have to be extroverted to be inappropriate, and most extroverted aspies wouldn't act like this. for example, you come across as very extroverted - your success in law school and dating seem like evidence of a highly extroverted aspie, yet i am guessing you don't engage in such weird behaviours.


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08 Mar 2013, 4:44 am

I agree on the "weird" and "interrupts a lot". I would propose the following other characteristics:
- talks a lot without letting other people get a word in edgewise
- hyposensitive/craves new situations related to special interest
- likes to participate in situations as much as possible; hands-on learner
- tends to be loud
- has no difficulty starting conversations with strangers (especially if very socially unaware)

Yeah, the sexual harrassment is too over the top, so is talking about inappropriate topics. One is not always interested in inappropriate things, and many people with ASD don't have a strong sexual motive, period.


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08 Mar 2013, 5:02 am

Please note that extroversion should not be confused with being outgoing, chatty, enjoying the company of others, etc. My daughter and I are both introverts, in that we recharge from being alone. However, we're both very sociable, chatty and enjoy the company of others, to a limit. We need to get away from people, to re-energise, which makes us introverts. My daughter, especially, seems to fit the description of the 'extrovert' being spoken about in this thread, as she's outgoing to an extreme, displaying behaviour listed in this thread. But, the discussion here does not accurately describe an extrovert. She's a sociable introvert with Aspergers, not an extrovert with Aspergers. For many years, I was socially anxious, very shy and selectively mute. At those times, I might have come across as introverted (which I am), but I was no more introverted than I am now, even with this very sociable personality.


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