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If I was no longer "different":
I'd rather I was more like everyone else 20%  20%  [ 11 ]
I'd rather everyone else was more like me 80%  80%  [ 43 ]
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10 Nov 2013, 6:00 pm

Wanting to change everybody to be more like me is just as bad as them wanting to change me to be more like them. Everyone has the right to be themselves.

Too much sameness isn't comfortable anyhow. Even NTs take pains to assert their individuality. Go to a school where they wear uniforms; you'll see them using hair and jewelry and all that kind of thing to show that they're themselves. People do like to be similar to others around them, but they feel pretty threatened if they feel they're forced to be exactly the same. They fight for a balance between individuality and belonging.


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10 Nov 2013, 6:00 pm

Definitely "rather everyone else was more like me". Sure, I have my issues, but I still think most people are more "malfunctioning" than I am. It's just as well that the poll option was "more like me", because it would be harder to decide if everyone being exactly like me would be a good thing. :)

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I voted for wanting to everyone to be more like me, if I were no longer different. It might be nice....we'd all smile and wave at each other when we met on the street (even at people we don't know that well but appear friendly), everyone would probably carry around at least one or two plushies/coping items, everyone would probably carry on long, rich and illustrious conversations with each other about cetaceans, animated film/cartoons, etc and we'd always know exactly what one another was feeling, and would be very sensitive to those feelings and try to help each other cope. We also might not see each other as often as we'd like since a lot of us would probable be all snuggled up in bed with our blankets, plushies, laptops and cranberry juice. There would also be no more fat-shaming and we'd probably go around hugging each other a lot. :D


You paint a nice picture of Aspie Utopia there! :D It's not that I particularly like any one of those things (except maybe cranberry juice and blankets) and I'm not so sure about random hugs and everyone waving at me... but maybe the long, rich and illustrious conversations won me over! But how would we know what other people were feeling?


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10 Nov 2013, 6:05 pm

I don't wish to be like everybody else and I don't want everybody else to be more like me.


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10 Nov 2013, 6:13 pm

Everyone else can change; I am teh awesome. Just ask my mummy. :)


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11 Nov 2013, 12:15 am

I have some kids and grandkids who are AS, others who are NT. I have one though, the oldest, who I can only describe as a hybrid. She seems to have the positives of both NT and AS, without the weaknessesI of either. She is incredibly intelligent, gorgeous [people constantly are asking for her autograph because she looks like she must be someone] She is loyal [AS] honest [AS] a social butterfly {NT] an athlete[NT] perserverates{AS} logical[AS] dry humor [AS] independent [AS] researches everything[AS] is repulsed by shallowness[AS] Every man and woman, gay or straight, tend to fall in love with her winsome ways[NT] generous [AS] creative and kind {AS] Ah, high in both cognitive [NT] and affectual[AS] empathy.

But somehow she always gets her heart decimated. I have no idea why.



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11 Nov 2013, 12:26 am

If people just accepted me as me, there would be no problem, however they don't so now they have no choice but to be assimilated to my ways.

We're going to eat the same meal for dinner and enjoy a tea and two chocolate/wheat biscuits while watching The Big Bang Theory.
We're not going to put pressure on people to be more social but do it when we please.
We're all going to be as honest as we like. If people are like me they will not abuse this power as an excuse to be rude.

And then we will turn into a pack of ravenous beasts as every person in the world tries to buy concert tickets to see our same favourite band.

I don't care how sameness can be boring. I'm ADHD/bipolar. I always find ways to switch things up when I get bored. And I've absolutely had enough of people trying to change me.

This thread makes me feel much better.


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11 Nov 2013, 12:54 am

The world would be a messy and violent place if more people were like me.


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11 Nov 2013, 5:49 am

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Skilpadde wrote:
I would definitely much rather be NT. An entire world with people as socially awkward as me would not be a good thing at all. We're no more oblivious or indifferent to things like that than NTs are.


But would I be socially awkward if I understood most peoples social signals because they would be like me?. Just because everybody would be like me would I understand their social signals?. I think the answer would be "yes" to the above questions but I really don't know.

I know I don't always send out the correct signals, because I've been told so, and I know I react to it when I see it in others. I have watched youtube videos of aspies whose expression or tone of voice didn't match their words (not talking about sarcasm), and I reacted to it. Them sharing my neurology won't make me understand them. I would fail to get their social signals if they gave incorrect ones. That's innate in me, not learned. I have never completely lacked the ability to read expressions, and that would be the same.

One of the problems with the thread question is that it seems we all assume that making everyone like us would make everyone into the kind of aspie the individual in question is. That's not the case at all. If there were no NTs people wouldn't be all like me, they would be all over the place in personality, behavior, skills, symptoms and function level. I would still be HFA in some ways and feel uncomfortable around those who aren't, and I'd be severe in other ways and feel awkward around those who aren't.
And if somehow they were all like me, I still wouldn't have an easy time dealing with them. I need the correct signals. I couldn't cope with a world full of me!

If everyone was aspie I think the majority would be too focused on their own stuff to contribute to the world around them and I think there would be less unity.


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11 Nov 2013, 6:10 am

Skilpadde wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
I would definitely much rather be NT. An entire world with people as socially awkward as me would not be a good thing at all. We're no more oblivious or indifferent to things like that than NTs are.


But would I be socially awkward if I understood most peoples social signals because they would be like me?. Just because everybody would be like me would I understand their social signals?. I think the answer would be "yes" to the above questions but I really don't know.

I know I don't always send out the correct signals, because I've been told so, and I know I react to it when I see it in others. I have watched youtube videos of aspies whose expression or tone of voice didn't match their words (not talking about sarcasm), and I reacted to it. Them sharing my neurology won't make me understand them. I would fail to get their social signals if they gave incorrect ones. That's innate in me, not learned. I have never completely lacked the ability to read expressions, and that would be the same.

One of the problems with the thread question is that it seems we all assume that making everyone like us would make everyone into the kind of aspie the individual in question is. That's not the case at all. If there were no NTs people wouldn't be all like me, they would be all over the place in personality, behavior, skills, symptoms and function level. I would still be HFA in some ways and feel uncomfortable around those who aren't, and I'd be severe in other ways and feel awkward around those who aren't.
And if somehow they were all like me, I still wouldn't have an easy time dealing with them. I need the correct signals. I couldn't cope with a world full of me!

If everyone was aspie I think the majority would be too focused on their own stuff to contribute to the world around them and I think there would be less unity.


The question was if the world was more like "you" not just on the spectrum and being the literal sort I answered that question.

As far as unity the NT world does not have a good record with this. If the world all had my special interests would I be more able and willing to interact and help?


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11 Nov 2013, 11:26 am

If I weren't different anymore....Then, it wouldn't be me at all.



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11 Nov 2013, 3:51 pm

I don't like the way that NT's (Neurotypical persons) live their lives.

My personal opinion is that if more people were like me then the world would be a much better place.

Wars would cease. Famines would end.
The crime rate would go to zero. And everyone would live in harmony with eachother.

There would not be predjudice. There would not be disunion. Everyone would be open & honest.

Gluttony would cease, and everyone would look out for eachother rather than being self-centered.

It would be a much better world if everyone was like me; but then I think everyone thinks that.


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