does an ASD diagnoses fit to you at all?

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ZombieBrideXD
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15 Dec 2013, 1:44 am

On a scale of one to ten, how well do you think the diagnoses fit you

10 - it fits perfectly, everything in my life points to autism

9- it fits very well aside from some symptoms i do not display

8- i show some symptoms, definitely enough to fit

7- i technically fit the criteria, which is enough for me

6- i just barely fit the criteria, which i have douts about sometimes

5- i seem to have both traits, and no diagnoses (NT or Autism) seems to fit better

4- i have a few traits, but the scale tips to NT

3- i have my autistic moments but i am more than likely NT, sometimes i have douts

2- i am a NT that likes science and math, and sticks to a strict schedual which some people think is 'autism'

1- nothing in my life can be explained by autism

for me, im a 9.5

how about you?


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15 Dec 2013, 5:32 am

I think, 6-9 would fit me.


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15 Dec 2013, 5:37 am

11. there is nothing else out there that could possibly relate me to the way that I am, other than aspergers syndrome.



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15 Dec 2013, 5:47 am

9-10



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15 Dec 2013, 8:41 am

10 definitely.


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15 Dec 2013, 8:45 am

9.


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15 Dec 2013, 8:52 am

Some days 8, usually 9


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15 Dec 2013, 9:15 am

The way the options are worded seems off or odd to me. The scale seems to be based on the idea that the spectrum is tightly defined and individuals on the spectrum are expected to display all traits that are associated with the spectrum. This is explicitly not the case.

Functionally there should be no difference between category 9 and category 10.

Another aspect of the spectrum is that it is not a left--right scale with a single variable.

The spectrum has multiple variables. A better analogy would be a color spectrum like a rainbow with continuous variation in hue, saturation and value. Even that is oversimplified because the description of ASD contains more variables.

You may have mild, moderate, or severe sensory issues. You may have mild, moderate, or severe difficulties in social communication. Prosody, coordination and fine motor skills, rigidity of thinking, etc. --even if you use a very crude 3 tier sorting system for the intensity of these symptoms, you end up with a very complicated system.

Unless you really feel you were misdiagnosed, and you don't meet the basic criteria for diagnosis, these other details of mild degree of this, moderate degree of that, etc. are all part of the spectrum concept. So it really doesn't make sense to say they indicate a misfit with the label. The label is broad by design and requires additional detail to be meaningful.

Edited to add: I had strong suspicions and went to a pro who said yes, you are it. As I understand it I was a 9 though I would have guessed 7 or so--on a DSM IV scale, on the DSM V Scale everything that's on the spectrum is a 10, period. The rest is in the rather important details.



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15 Dec 2013, 11:18 am

I'd say 9.



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15 Dec 2013, 1:38 pm

Adamantium wrote:
The way the options are worded seems off or odd to me. The scale seems to be based on the idea that the spectrum is tightly defined and individuals on the spectrum are expected to display all traits that are associated with the spectrum. This is explicitly not the case.

Functionally there should be no difference between category 9 and category 10.

Another aspect of the spectrum is that it is not a left--right scale with a single variable.

The spectrum has multiple variables. A better analogy would be a color spectrum like a rainbow with continuous variation in hue, saturation and value. Even that is oversimplified because the description of ASD contains more variables.

You may have mild, moderate, or severe sensory issues. You may have mild, moderate, or severe difficulties in social communication. Prosody, coordination and fine motor skills, rigidity of thinking, etc. --even if you use a very crude 3 tier sorting system for the intensity of these symptoms, you end up with a very complicated system.

Unless you really feel you were misdiagnosed, and you don't meet the basic criteria for diagnosis, these other details of mild degree of this, moderate degree of that, etc. are all part of the spectrum concept. So it really doesn't make sense to say they indicate a misfit with the label. The label is broad by design and requires additional detail to be meaningful.

Edited to add: I had strong suspicions and went to a pro who said yes, you are it. As I understand it I was a 9 though I would have guessed 7 or so--on a DSM IV scale, on the DSM V Scale everything that's on the spectrum is a 10, period. The rest is in the rather important details.


i dont quite understand


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15 Dec 2013, 2:02 pm

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15 Dec 2013, 5:06 pm

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15 Dec 2013, 5:52 pm

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15 Dec 2013, 5:56 pm

I wouldn't have it if it didn't.



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16 Dec 2013, 1:47 am

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
i dont quite understand


OK, I probably worded it badly! Sorry.

Second try:

A DSM V ASD diagnosis means that the individual either requires support, requires substantial support or requires very substantial support in two symptom domains: (1) deficits in social communication and social interaction and (2) restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities

Symptoms may be present currently or by history, must have presented early in developmental history and may be masked by learned strategies later in life.

Symptoms in three areas of dimension 1 must be found: deficits in social emotional reciprocity, deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used forsocial interaction, and deficits in developing, maintaining, and understanding relationships and/or adjusting to social context.
Many sy mptoms could meet these criteria, not all possible symptoms need be present, just one for each of these three dimension 1 categories.

Symptoms in 2 of 4 categories in the second dimension restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities: Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech, Insistence on Sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior, Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus, Hyper- or hyporeactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of the environment.

There are many symptoms which may meet these requirements, you only need two of these along with your three dimension 1 symptoms.


10 - it fits perfectly, everything in my life points to autism - OK, this makes sense as a personal subjective statement.

9- it fits very well aside from some symptoms i do not display
Say what now? By definition, if you have it then you meet the criteria, you need only display the require symptoms--it is not unexpected that you will not display some symptoms or traits that could be typical of the dimension 1 or 2 criteria. This is a difference without distinction.

8- i show some symptoms, definitely enough to fit
As in 9, if you have the 3 symptoms of deficits in social communication and interaction and 2 symptoms of restricted and repetitive interests and behaviors, then you have it just as much as 10 or 9...

7- i technically fit the criteria, which is enough for me
Again, there is no meaningful difference between this and 8, 9 or 10. -- at least in terms of DSM V criteria.

6- i just barely fit the criteria, which i have douts about sometimes
Again, there is no meaningful difference between this and 7, 8, 9 or 10. -- at least in terms of DSM V criteria. You may only "require support" rather than "substantial support" or "very substantial support" but if you fit, then you fit. The spectrum allows for lots of ways that you can fit, but you either do or dont.


Does that make more sense?

The question is worded in such a way as to create grades of diagnosis when these degrees already exist in the diagnostic criteria. Just not having some of the listed symptoms does not mean you are less of a fit.

It's as if the criteria are being seen as switches when they are really potentiometers.



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16 Dec 2013, 2:37 am

I fit pretty much all the autism criteria, except for the "lack of imagination" one. No speech delay, but plenty of language issues, soo... ehh. Yeah, I'm pretty sure my doctor was right about me having autism. There's no diagnosis that explains it any better.


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