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16 Jan 2014, 11:46 pm

I used to make cannabis butter from the indica strain. It helped my son alot with his neurological pain, anxiety, ADHD and tourettes.



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17 Jan 2014, 12:02 am

on the occasions i did cannabis it had very little to no effect on me compered to the others who did it at the time i don't get the appeal



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17 Jan 2014, 12:06 am

when I was young Acapulco gold had no effect on me, other than nausea. I am hoping that now that I am old maybe my body has changed to allow for a more beneficial effect.



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17 Jan 2014, 1:18 am

I smoke pot sometimes when I feel my antidepressant isn't working the way I want it to.

I was told by my dad that cannabis oil can repair the wiring in your brain if it's damaged.


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17 Jan 2014, 2:50 am

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I smoke pot sometimes when I feel my antidepressant isn't working the way I want it to.

I was told by my dad that cannabis oil can repair the wiring in your brain if it's damaged.

studies are showing that it helps heal your brain after a traumatic brain injury



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17 Jan 2014, 5:03 am

Out of experiences I cant really agree in all of that Marihuana fandom. So I like to use it, when I have some free time or on an weekend, but it definitly did not enhance my life by daily use. The relaxing influence causes me as well to slow done, which means in the end, that I need longer for my work to do. As well that it caused me to be more lazy, so while normally when I need to broom the floor, I do so without thinking, Marihuana causes me to do endless thinking if that floor really needs to be cleaned or if it cant be done tomorrow as well, and knows hell what.

I simply need all of my senses to organize my daily life, and everything that slows me down, causes me in the end to have less time left, that I can spend for relaxing on my SI. And during week, when I smoked at night before sleeping when my work and housework was done, it caused me to wake up totally tired in the next morning, so the 30 minutes of having some nice effect at the evening did not outmatch an complete ruined next day.

I´d be interested to know, of those of you speaking of enhancing their life by Marihuana, dont have any of these rather typical effects? So that cozy-/lazyness, causing you to delay work that needs to be done, or causing you to slow down and so on? I am definitly not totally against it, just like a glass of wine there is time for it now and then, when work is done and I have a free day tomorrow. But for me it definitly had a negative impact on my daily work outcome, be it payed work or housework.



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17 Jan 2014, 5:10 am

Here's a task fact for those of you experimenting with cannabis. Try using it with black licorice.

Let me know how you go :wink:



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19 Jan 2014, 2:41 pm

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Also true. I think the point here is that being autistic & sober all the time is a less-than-ideal scenario.


You couldn't be more wrong about what the point is here, at all. Frankly, I'm surprised by the piss poor reading comprehension exhibited by everyone in this thread.

Cannabidiol is a non-psychotropic plant cannabinoid, it does not get you "high".

"CBD works on receptors, and as it turns out, we have cannabinoids in our bodies, endogenous cannabinoids, that turn out to be very effective at regulating immune functions, nerve functions, bone functions."

Hampson, of the NIH, likened the discovery of cannabinoids inside the body to "the opiate-endorphin story from 25 to 30 years ago. Before that, no one knew how heroin and morphine worked until they found these compounds in the brain, endorphins, and they used the same system. What were they for? To repress pain during exercise, et cetera."

Russo: "The endogenous cannabinoid system acts as a modulator in fine-tuning a lot of these systems, and if something is deranged biochemically in a person's body, it may well be that a cannabinoid system can bring things back into balance."

The Washington Post

"A study conducted by Stanford University has found that there might be compounds in marijuana which have some very specific health benefits.

The study’s results reveal that cannabinoids – which are found in cannabis – might help to treat autism.

“A new study shows that mutations associated with autism block the action of brain molecules that act on the same receptors that marijuana’s active chemical acts on,” according to the Autism Daily Newscast. “Thomas Sudhof, a cellular physiologist at Stanford University, tested mutations associated with autism in mice. Two mutations associated with autism in a synapse-adhesion protein led to deficits in prolonged endocannabinoid signaling in mice. This suggests that autism could caused by a disruption of the brain’s ability to send clear signals.”

ADN references another study that supports the theory that cannabinoids could be used as a treatment to autism.

“Danielle Piomelli of UC Irvine and Olivier Manzoni of INSERM, the French national research agency, treated mice exhibiting symptoms of Fragile-X Syndrome, a disorder that causes autistic symptoms, with novel compounds that correct the signaling of endocannibinoid transmitters in the brain [which cannabinoids can do]. The mice showed dramatic behavioral improvements in maze tests measuring anxiety and open-space acceptance.”

ADN clearly believes that the study’s findings should be viewed as a reason for hope.

“Families who are already using the drug to treat their children’s symptoms believe it has made all the difference in the world. Many children with autism are already given cocktails of drugs that may be even stronger than marijuana, with serious side effects and limited results.”

Stanford University Cannabinoid Study


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19 Jan 2014, 2:54 pm

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Smoking bud makes me deeeeeeeead lazy.


fibonaccispiral777 wrote:
Same and I find it rather irritating when people say 'Well, that is not the pot you are smoking, it is just you.' No, it's not, it was the pot.


Actually, it's mostly the smoke/tar that makes you "lazy". When you smoke cannabis, most of the cannabinoids are burned up before you get to ingest them. But you end up with a healthy coating of tar on the inside of you lungs which gives you a euphoric high that's mostly the result of oxygen deprivation and when that wears off, you burn out.

Try vaporizing instead. None of the plant matter is actually burned and all you ingest are the cannabinoids, so you won't get as "high" (but that's ok because that high is oxygen deprivation and no good for your health) and you won't crash/burn out as bad.

Another thing to bear in mind is that ingesting THC triggers melatonin production, which in turn triggers sleep so drowsiness is an inevitable side effect. In order to prevent disruption to your circadian rhythm, it's best to only use THC in the late afternoon/evening when you body is starting to produce melatonin anyways. Melatonin is a powerful antioxidant as well as being a sleep hormone so it's not bad for you at all, just not conducive to productivity during the daytime.

Cannabidiol or CBD isn't psycho-active or trigger melatonin production, so it's very effective to take during the morning/daytime because it doesn't make you feel "lazy."



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19 Jan 2014, 3:07 pm

why would anyone want to coat their perfectly healthy pink lung tissue with tar? :scratch:



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19 Jan 2014, 3:16 pm

Schneekugel wrote:
Out of experiences I cant really agree in all of that Marihuana fandom. So I like to use it, when I have some free time or on an weekend, but it definitly did not enhance my life by daily use. The relaxing influence causes me as well to slow done, which means in the end, that I need longer for my work to do. As well that it caused me to be more lazy, so while normally when I need to broom the floor, I do so without thinking, Marihuana causes me to do endless thinking if that floor really needs to be cleaned or if it cant be done tomorrow as well, and knows hell what.

I simply need all of my senses to organize my daily life, and everything that slows me down, causes me in the end to have less time left, that I can spend for relaxing on my SI. And during week, when I smoked at night before sleeping when my work and housework was done, it caused me to wake up totally tired in the next morning, so the 30 minutes of having some nice effect at the evening did not outmatch an complete ruined next day.

I´d be interested to know, of those of you speaking of enhancing their life by Marihuana, dont have any of these rather typical effects? So that cozy-/lazyness, causing you to delay work that needs to be done, or causing you to slow down and so on? I am definitly not totally against it, just like a glass of wine there is time for it now and then, when work is done and I have a free day tomorrow. But for me it definitly had a negative impact on my daily work outcome, be it payed work or housework.


I only experience the negative effects that you describe when I:
a) smoke instead of vaporize.
b) exceed a medicinal dosage.
c) consume THC too early in the day.

I stick to cannabis juice during the day for CBD's and hold off on the THC until evenings. Cannabinoids allow me to maintain perspective, to not make mountains out of molehills or stare into the abyss so to speak, both literally and figuratively. Nothing makes me feel as "normal" as cannabinoids do.

Although they do little to help ease social anxiety, cannabinoids are a great ambassador if the NT's partake with you.


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19 Jan 2014, 3:18 pm

auntblabby wrote:
why would anyone want to coat their perfectly healthy pink lung tissue with tar? :scratch:


Not I, that's why I haven't "smoked" cannabis in 10 years. There's too many good vaporizers out there nowadays. :wink:



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19 Jan 2014, 4:38 pm

LiamRodgers wrote:
babybird wrote:
Smoking bud makes me deeeeeeeead lazy.


fibonaccispiral777 wrote:
Same and I find it rather irritating when people say 'Well, that is not the pot you are smoking, it is just you.' No, it's not, it was the pot.


Actually, it's mostly the smoke/tar that makes you "lazy". When you smoke cannabis, most of the cannabinoids are burned up before you get to ingest them. But you end up with a healthy coating of tar on the inside of you lungs which gives you a euphoric high that's mostly the result of oxygen deprivation and when that wears off, you burn out.

Try vaporizing instead. None of the plant matter is actually burned and all you ingest are the cannabinoids, so you won't get as "high" (but that's ok because that high is oxygen deprivation and no good for your health) and you won't crash/burn out as bad.

Another thing to bear in mind is that ingesting THC triggers melatonin production, which in turn triggers sleep so drowsiness is an inevitable side effect. In order to prevent disruption to your circadian rhythm, it's best to only use THC in the late afternoon/evening when you body is starting to produce melatonin anyways. Melatonin is a powerful antioxidant as well as being a sleep hormone so it's not bad for you at all, just not conducive to productivity during the daytime.

Cannabidiol or CBD isn't psycho-active or trigger melatonin production, so it's very effective to take during the morning/daytime because it doesn't make you feel "lazy."


I would think its the opposite since CBD has more sedating properties than THC.


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19 Jan 2014, 4:46 pm

Concerning how smoking marijuana effects the lungs:
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Apparently its not quite as harmful as people claim. Smoking is probably still the most harmful way to ingest marijuana but its not nearly as bad as smoking cigarettes.


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22 Jan 2014, 1:08 am

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Concerning how smoking marijuana effects the lungs:
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Apparently its not quite as harmful as people claim. Smoking is probably still the most harmful way to ingest marijuana but its not nearly as bad as smoking cigarettes.


A lot of independent claims say it has a minimal effect on lung capacity, and I feel I should add that inhalation, vaporized or not, does more for neurological troubles the same way eating, dosing or applying cannabinoids does for physiological pain relief.


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22 Jan 2014, 4:24 am

LiamRodgers wrote:

I only experience the negative effects that you describe when I:
a) smoke instead of vaporize.
b) exceed a medicinal dosage.
c) consume THC too early in the day.

I stick to cannabis juice during the day for CBD's and hold off on the THC until evenings. Cannabinoids allow me to maintain perspective, to not make mountains out of molehills or stare into the abyss so to speak, both literally and figuratively. Nothing makes me feel as "normal" as cannabinoids do.

Although they do little to help ease social anxiety, cannabinoids are a great ambassador if the NT's partake with you.


As mentioned in others posts about that topic, I dont smoke it that often, so normally only, when I dont have time to prepare stuff or cant carry much with me. (Festivals, birthday parties of friends...)

As way that I know of vaporizer myself. So anyway if in chocolate, cake, vaporizer, or however, it has the same effect on me, as smoked. It makes me lazy and causes me, out of the "relaxing" effect to slow down, which causes me in the end to have more stress, if works need to be done, because of me then needing more time for that work, and so having less free time afterwards for resting.