"Wrong Planet" feeling = "Always alone"?

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Sethno
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15 Feb 2014, 7:02 am

I just remembered a conversation I had with my therapist a long time ago. (I think even the therapist has forgotten it and I'm bringing it up this coming week.)

It'd struck me one day that I always had this subliminal feeling that I was "always alone".

There could be a room full of people, but that basic, underlying feeling would still be there.

Does that sound like another way of the "I was born on the wrong planet" feeling being expressed or realized?


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15 Feb 2014, 7:13 am

I am never lonely when I am alone. I am always severely lonely in company. I am very aware when around others that I am not among them, only next to them. I am a parahuman.


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15 Feb 2014, 7:15 am

I think so. I believe the idea is that, rather than being on a planet with different people, it's more about being on a planet where it's harder for you to connect with people. So in that sense, it's more like that you have the subliminal feeling of being alone because you find it hard to connect with others, no matter how many of them there are.



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15 Feb 2014, 7:28 am

Have always felt detached and separate from everyone and everything.
So yeah i guess like if i was visiting an alien planet.



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15 Feb 2014, 9:24 am

My goal for myself is to try to find a way to be on this planet with the other people that inhabit it that I can tolerate and so can they. I can't tell reading your posts whether feeling always alone is something you identify as true for you and fine, or true for you and not fine. But I get the impression that right now, it would be a good thing, as for quite a few at WR, to be different and alone, Sethno, from your perspective, for you. Have you figured out how much you want to separate from others and how much you want to be integrated more?



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15 Feb 2014, 11:38 am

In real life I definitely feel like an alien that's landed on the wrong planet, and I'm very different from everyone else I meet. But here on WP, I feel completely normal and average, and that I've found 'my kind'.

As for loneliness, I prefer being solitary, and I don't want to 'bond' with anyone on a personal level (even here on the forum). But I think I'm unusual in that regard, and most people on here do seem to want to connect with others in a meaningful way.

[EDIT:] To answer your question – yes, I think your description of feeling alone in a group of people is essentially the same as the 'wrong planet' concept.



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15 Feb 2014, 11:44 am

I always feel alone even in company.



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15 Feb 2014, 12:01 pm

I once had an audio tape from a therapist, wherein he made the point that a feeling of aloneness is at the core of human experience, and that what matters is what I do with it.

I don't know how true that is, or is not, but pondering that thought is sometimes helpful to me when I'm having an episode of feeling too alone.



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15 Feb 2014, 1:11 pm

Many NTs feel basically alone, too. Even extroverts. I think it might be a human universal that we as autistics mistake for being unique to us, simply because we are in a minority group.

If you never feel alone, you're probably in the minority--and probably a stable introvert who enjoys solitude.


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15 Feb 2014, 1:20 pm

Waterfalls wrote:
My goal for myself is to try to find a way to be on this planet with the other people that inhabit it that I can tolerate and so can they. I can't tell reading your posts whether feeling always alone is something you identify as true for you and fine, or true for you and not fine. But I get the impression that right now, it would be a good thing, as for quite a few at WR, to be different and alone, Sethno, from your perspective, for you. Have you figured out how much you want to separate from others and how much you want to be integrated more?


Actually, the question is whether or not the "always alone" feeling is another way of expressing the "born on the wrong planet" feeling the website is named for.


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15 Feb 2014, 2:11 pm

Sethno wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
My goal for myself is to try to find a way to be on this planet with the other people that inhabit it that I can tolerate and so can they. I can't tell reading your posts whether feeling always alone is something you identify as true for you and fine, or true for you and not fine. But I get the impression that right now, it would be a good thing, as for quite a few at WR, to be different and alone, Sethno, from your perspective, for you. Have you figured out how much you want to separate from others and how much you want to be integrated more?


Actually, the question is whether or not the "always alone" feeling is another way of expressing the "born on the wrong planet" feeling the website is named for.

No. I don't believe so. I agree with Callista. This is a universal experience.



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15 Feb 2014, 2:43 pm

Sethno wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
My goal for myself is to try to find a way to be on this planet with the other people that inhabit it that I can tolerate and so can they. I can't tell reading your posts whether feeling always alone is something you identify as true for you and fine, or true for you and not fine. But I get the impression that right now, it would be a good thing, as for quite a few at WR, to be different and alone, Sethno, from your perspective, for you. Have you figured out how much you want to separate from others and how much you want to be integrated more?


Actually, the question is whether or not the "always alone" feeling is another way of expressing the "born on the wrong planet" feeling the website is named for.


I think "Wrong Planet" is more about the totality of the experience - we are different. But feeling lonely can be a product of that.



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15 Feb 2014, 2:51 pm

Waterfalls wrote:
Sethno wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
My goal for myself is to try to find a way to be on this planet with the other people that inhabit it that I can tolerate and so can they. I can't tell reading your posts whether feeling always alone is something you identify as true for you and fine, or true for you and not fine. But I get the impression that right now, it would be a good thing, as for quite a few at WR, to be different and alone, Sethno, from your perspective, for you. Have you figured out how much you want to separate from others and how much you want to be integrated more?


Actually, the question is whether or not the "always alone" feeling is another way of expressing the "born on the wrong planet" feeling the website is named for.

No. I don't believe so. I agree with Callista. This is a universal experience.

Totally agreed. Feeling lonely is part of being human, and that's one of the reasons we search endlessly for happiness, completude, soul-mate romance, religion, meaning for life and so on. Everyone feels this angst at least once because being human is being lonely in this vast universe and not finding the individual place or meaning.
There is also something called existencial crisis , doing some research on it is interesting. People feel lonely sometimes for a short period of time, and when this feeling is chronical it can lead to an existencial crisis. There are also other things related to existencial crisis but this is one of the most important.
Hmm it's a terrible feeling when it strikes but I see lots of beauty in it; this existential loneliness is what defines us as humans and motivates our refletions and despite never getting rid of it or never finding answers, we're still carrying on



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15 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm

Lethea wrote:
I am never lonely when I am alone. I am always severely lonely in company.


Nowadays, this is true for me as well. That I feel more alone when I am with others, than when I am by myself. Probably, because when I am with others, it reminds me of just how different I am.

When I was growing up, I used to feel lonely and sad, when I was alone. And, I felt awkward and different when I was with others. I suppose that’s why my childhood was so sad.



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15 Feb 2014, 6:05 pm

Rocket123 wrote:
Lethea wrote:
I am never lonely when I am alone. I am always severely lonely in company.


Nowadays, this is true for me as well. That I feel more alone when I am with others, than when I am by myself. Probably, because when I am with others, it reminds me of just how different I am.

When I was growing up, I used to feel lonely and sad, when I was alone. And, I felt awkward and different when I was with others. I suppose that’s why my childhood was so sad.


This is true for me as well.

I think we as children were used to having company (by parents/family), so we needed that company to not feel bad. But at the same time we did not have the brain for easy socialization, making the company with others awkward.

As adults, we feel alone when together with others because they remind us of our (chronic) differences.



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15 Feb 2014, 7:06 pm

Idk. Maybe we are all aliens and are given our own planet on our 22nd Birthday. In which case this is my planet and my NTs and you all need to find your own. However, I don't mind you pitching your tents out back until the next shuttle arrives.

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