Difference between Social Communication Disorder and PDD-NOS

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FranzOren
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05 Sep 2020, 4:58 pm

I am sorry for asking this question, it's just I thought that if you at least had symptoms of restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior that caused you great distress from early childhood, you are considered to have the mildest form of Autism.


A mild form of Autism includes social communication impairments and restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior from early childhood.


Moderate form of Autism includes clear deficits in verbal and nonverbal social communication skills in addition to apparent social impairments from early to late childhood.


Severe Autism may include, lack of social skills, extremely impaired communication, repetitive behavior.


Profound Autism may include, intellectual disability (an IQ of 69 or below). Symptoms may include impaired social communications or interactions, bizarre behavior, and lack of social or emotional reciprocity. Sleep problems, aggressiveness, and self-injurious behavior are also possible frequent occurrences.[10] LFA is not a recognized diagnosis in the DSM-5 or ICD-10.



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05 Sep 2020, 4:59 pm

Also having history symptoms of restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior can be a much broader term for social defects, but it does not really effect how you understand and read emotions, facial cues and body languages



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05 Sep 2020, 5:02 pm

For example, here is the perfect answer form Nca14



FranzOren wrote:
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Now I think that I am generally "requring substantial support" despite high IQ and well-developed speech and language, maybe not only due to (something which was diagnosed as) Asperger's, but also due to other mental disorders (like OCD), getting psychotropic drugs (which can make driving a car impossible) and environmental factors (dysfunctional family, living in small locality). I am rather not as bad to be considered as "requiring very substantial support" because I can ride in public transport without any assistance (like family) and go to the doctor or buy medictaions without help of other person, but I am disabled in occupational area, have no friends, have never had a partner, girlfriend (despite craving of nature), I even have not driven a car at all despite being almost 29 years old.

I did not have problems with lying, telling lies as a child (which is not good, because lying is a sin), I rather also had no problems in pretend play or understanding intentions even as a child, young child, but I was "weird" socially, I was uninterested in making friends and being non-romantically loved (for example by parents). I did not think about looking at eyes and maybe even or faces, people when talking as a child or young adolescent (when I did not know so much about mental disorders). My mother complained that my facial expressions are "stupid" quite often. I received diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome in 2008 in specialistic center despite my good theory of mind in comparison to many other people with that diagnosis. I may be more like someone with schizoid disorder than someone with classic ASD.

Diagnosis of ASD according to DSM-V requires deficits in social skills. I suppose that there can be other sorts of autism than "conventional", "bookish" like Kanner's syndrome...

In draft(?) versions of ICD-11 classification there was a proposition of developmental disorder named "social reciprocity disorder". Maybe it was mostly about deficit of interest in socialization, not about poor social skills (at least those clearly associated with theory of mind, like lying, understanding intentions, pretend play)? For me schizoid or schizotypal, schizophrenic disorders with disorders in social motivation or reciprocity since childhood might be considered sorts of autism if they're persistent.




Exactly!

That is what I am talking about



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06 Sep 2020, 5:53 am

Thanks for mentioning my post, my opinion!

I think that people with SCD may often have problems or atypicalities in other areas than just social communication (like limited social motivation, stimming, sensory issues, strange interests). SCD is for me like other form of autism, not like specific developmental disorders (learning disabilities) like dyslexia or dyscalculia which not make a person socially inept, inadequate, "odd", "weird". SCD is rather pervasive problem (associated with entire life, having large influence on socio-emotional well-being or "normalcy"), not mainly academic problem. People with pervasive developmental problems often may be viewed as "odd, socially inept "nerds"", unlike ones with pure LDs.



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06 Sep 2020, 9:46 am

Thank you!

I agree