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aspieZim
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10 Jun 2014, 1:16 pm

Are there any extroverted aspies?
I'm an aspie and i just found out that i'm an extrovert!
It makes my life hard, when i'm always seeking other people but my aspergers and social awkwardness constantly gets in the way and makes social interaction fail.
Can anyone relate?
Are aspie extroverts just as common as NT extroverts?



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10 Jun 2014, 1:24 pm

yes there are!
the statistics depend on what concept of extroversion you are using. It's stimated that 2/3 of population is extroverted and using mbti it seems like aspies that are introverted are more than 70%! So yeah there are much more extroverts in general population than among aspies but still it is totally possible.
sorry, I can't relate cause I am introvert.



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10 Jun 2014, 1:36 pm

My aspie friend is extroverted. Well, she says she's an ambivert, but with the way she is, there's no way. She's extroverted.


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10 Jun 2014, 2:19 pm

how does an extroverted aspie deal with being an aspie that makes them socially awkward and socially anxious but at the same time being an extrovert?
i dunno what to do, i want to reach out to people but my aspie makes me fear and anxious to an extreme extent
some days i can break free of being an aspie about it and reach out successful, then i'd have aspie days and i withdrawal for weeks.



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10 Jun 2014, 4:01 pm

I can totally relate. It sort of depends on the citation and more importantly, on my levels of sensory overload and anxiety, but I am definitely extroverted at times. I think that if it wasn't for Aspergers I would most likely be a complete extrovert, instead of be an introvert.

There are times when I am completely at home talking and interacting with other people in such a way that it seems to give me energy, instead of completely exhausting me.

Many different people at different times throughout my life have noted that I have a natural leadership ability. The effects of being bullied in high school have taken away some of this ability though. Sometimes this is very true and I am able to completely surprise myself by taking charge of a situation when needed. But I have to feel comfortable and secure to be able to do it.


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10 Jun 2014, 4:34 pm

I am an introvert (ISTJ in all tests) but I was an extrovertic child and I still have my extrovert moments.

It usually happens when I am on "a duty" of something noone else can do (or rather wants to do...), for example representing my class in front of the principal to get something. I am pretty stubborn when it comes to something I want to be done so I get very argumentative and therefore effective. I surely make mistakes but I fix them using a smile and go on. It's not like I care of their opinion, I just want to successfully accomplish my mission and I am going to do it.

Same goes for subjects that get me focused. Call it special interest or not - if anything makes me curious I will send a bunch of questions about it no matter how many people is watching me and who is the one forced to answer. I just want to know - that's the only thing that matters in moments like this. And if other people think I am rude or childish - it's not my problem. I am not doing anything wrong in my opinion because the feeling of being curious overloads me and I have to know the answer right away.

Same thing goes when someone asks me of anything I know a lot about. I will answer no matter who is asking and how many people is listening just because I like explaining stuff. And if others think I am showing up or playing a nerd - who cares? I am doing what I like, they can call it however they want.

I got some social anxiety but it is so mild I am able to make it disappear as long as there is another, stronger emotion within me.



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10 Jun 2014, 4:59 pm

Of course you can be an extrovert!
A fair amount of Aspies would prefer to spend time with others rather than being alone.
The problem is usually that they don't feel like they fit in, so they keep looking for people they can relate with.
Wanting and having something is different.

To me, the main difference between extroverts & introverts has nothing to do with whether you're shy or anxious or whatever.

It's about:
1: Where you get ideas & inspiration from (do you get it by talking to others, or by recharging on your own for a long time?)
2: How long can you go on without feeling lonely?

There's people who wouldn't mind going on for days, by themselves, without talking to anybody.
An extrovert is somebody who feels awful if they don't have anybody to talk to for longer than a day, or keep them company.
That doesn't mean they're charismatic or socially adept. It's about the need.

Being an introvert doesn't mean you don't need it at all, there are degrees as to how introverted you are. You can be a little introverted, or very.
Though there are people who're extremely introverted and don't mind living their lives mostly in solitude.

In short, "Aspie" and "Introvert" are totally different. A lot of NTs are introverted, just because they don't feel the urge to talk to people frequently.
Aspies might want to, really badly, but things get in the way, like their anxiety or some other things.

Well, that was just my definition of Intro/Extroversion.[b]



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10 Jun 2014, 5:19 pm

aspieZim wrote:
how does an extroverted aspie deal with being an aspie that makes them socially awkward and socially anxious but at the same time being an extrovert?
i dunno what to do, i want to reach out to people but my aspie makes me fear and anxious to an extreme extent
some days i can break free of being an aspie about it and reach out successful, then i'd have aspie days and i withdrawal for weeks.


I deal this everyday of my life. This is the reason why I am so depressed and have so much anxiety. It's not that I want a lot of friends or want to be a part of a group but being social helps others and myself have a standard of living. Being social and having social skills helps people obtain jobs (better than fast food) and have a family of their own. Being isolated means a life of poverty and loneliness which in my opinion is worse than death itself.



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10 Jun 2014, 6:35 pm

haha, im a social introvert, i like being included and being comfortable with people. i just need my time alone though.

i feel bad for the extroverted Aspies out there they must be the ones who struggle the most.


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10 Jun 2014, 8:14 pm

I'm sort of a hybrid I guess of Introverted/Extroverted but I relate more to the former. I need a lot of alone time to function but I also crave peoples company as well and will get very depressed if I'm lacking one or the other for long periods of time. But I work with people all day so that takes up all my social limit, by the time I'm done work I just want to be alone, recharge and do my own thing. I don't really have energy for friends... Though I wish I had a couple to do things with from time to time.


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10 Jun 2014, 8:20 pm

I can be somewhat of an extrovert if I'm drunk. :P Otherwise, I'm mostly an introvert.



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10 Jun 2014, 9:25 pm

I see a lot of confusion in discussions over the supposed introvert/ extrovert dichotomy. Labeling a person by one of these terms may be convenient, but does very little to help us truly understand the depth of the person.

Nobody here is completely uninterested in socializing. Why would they have registered on a forum if that was the case? After all, our discussions here are a form of socialization. I doubt there are many exceptions to the fundamentals listed on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

I was officially diagnosed with NVLD years ago, and have very many aspie traits that lead me to strongly suspect I have ASD. The online tests I've taken usually indicate that I possess some of both AS and NT traits. So while I may be a milder case than the norm, the effect it has on my life is still significant.

On the Myers-Briggs, I scored 100% for Introversion... the highest possible. While it's true that I'm happy when left to my own devices, I also enjoy getting to know people. I've functioned well enough with NTs in academia or work environments.... but in social environments, I can't "connect" well at all. Personality-wise, I have much more in common with aspies than NTs. I have very intense interests... the biggest of these is the publishing industry (specifically fiction), but I'm passionate about all of the arts, whether they be visual, literary, musical, etc.

The only obstacle I've encountered so far on this forum is communication problems when it comes to my admittedly weird sense of humor. I'm a very playful person who means no harm to anyone. I understand that many aspies can misinterpret satire, figurative language, and other forms of humor. Still, many of them enjoy this humor and understand me quite easily. It is one of the ways I "play" to have fun and also get to know others. Humor can express a lot about someone's personality. If any of you read one of my posts and don't understand something, please feel free to send me a PM and I will explain my intentions. I will do the same if I misunderstand something too.

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10 Jun 2014, 10:12 pm

I get your humour mezzanotte :D I love witty humour and sarcasm, but admit I sometimes don't get it when others use it (mostly with people I don't know) but I always seem to get it in text. Maybe it's because I love Shakespeare and Jane Austen, who are both very witty - also English humour cracks me up. What I really struggle with is people with very dry senses of humour, but even NTs seem to fail on this at times.

I'm not sure where I fall on extrovert/introvert. There are times when I don't want to talk and I don't want people to talk to me - I just want to do my own thing. Other times I'm happy to socialise, but if something in the conversation doesn't grab my attention quick, I go cold and shut down (even a bit frustrated sometimes). Chit chat and mundane topics do this for me, or people that talk a lot about stuff that don't interest me. I find that sometimes just being in someone's company is enough to keep me feeling "social" as long as they don't expect me to be bubbly or talkative for too long, and don't mind it when I ramble on and say random things. I get a long better with boy NTs than girl NTs for this reason I think. Gaming seems to provide this well or activities like board games and watching movies/shows - not as much of the same expectations a party would have, but still opportunity to socialise and have interesting discussions.

I don't like things that lack purpose I guess, and at least with activities, there is a purpose, and the talking can happen around this purpose.



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10 Jun 2014, 10:42 pm

ConfusedAlot wrote:
I get your humour mezzanotte :D I love witty humour and sarcasm, but admit I sometimes don't get it when others use it (mostly with people I don't know) but I always seem to get it in text. Maybe it's because I love Shakespeare and Jane Austen, who are both very witty - also English humour cracks me up. What I really struggle with is people with very dry senses of humour, but even NTs seem to fail on this at times.


Seconded. I understand your humor too mezzanotte. :D

I'm the same way. I don't understand spoken sarcasm or metaphors, but I get in literature and the like. I occasionally have difficulty grasping the exact meaning of some things written in the casual style used here on WP, but I recognize that it's something meant to be funny, even if I'm not too sure what exactly it is. Jane Austen is one of my all time favorite authors as well.


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10 Jun 2014, 10:44 pm

being an aspie doesn't make you an introvert. you can be an extroverted aspie, but the social awkwardness often makes it hard and uncomfortable to be extroverted. I have a friend with Asperger's who isn't shy or introverted at all. She seems to be extroverted as well.



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19 Jun 2014, 10:33 am

I'm an extremely extroverted, hypersocial aspie.
I am attached to my phone and feel out of touch when it's not on me.
Whenever I go online, it's very difficult for me to resist going on FB or on WP.
I constantly go to parties, dinners, and other social events, crave more social jobs and more social involvement at work, and get fed up with alone time very quickly.
I need to express myself, otherwise I feel stale and dead inside.
I need a lot of friends so that I have more options in terms of people to talk to when someone is not available.
I am more motivated to socialize than to read, write, or do other solitary activities. Most people I work with are introverts and I can't relate to them at all.
I'm not sure what this means in terms of ASD, because I still come off as very ASD-ish, but that's me. Alone time is optional for me; I can enjoy it typically in small doses only. If I could, though, I would probably socialize all of my waking hours.


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