"He's an odd bird? maybe Asperger's or something?"

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13 Oct 2014, 4:50 pm

One of managers' comments to me at work re: another staff member.

I smiled and told her I have it.

She looked at me slightly puzzled and asked me if it was treatable.

I told her yes, that she likely wouldn't find anyone else in the city that knew more about it than I do, and that I've gone to extreme lengths to learn about it and treat myself as only very few people on the planet have done.

I found it very interesting that my ability to "pass" as a naturally socially integrated NT is now good enough that people who are even somewhat familiar with AS can't detect it in me and seem surprised when I disclose it. I quite liked her reaction, actually. It was a nice compliment to the disciplined work I've done on myself over the last year and a half or so.

Just thought I'd share the recent feedback I had in this regard in hopes that it inspires others to follow my lead and see if doing what I've done achieves similar life & work results for yourselves. I know, broken record and all.. but I cannot possibly stress enough how much better my life has become for what I've learned and done about my symptoms.

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13 Oct 2014, 7:40 pm

If your Autism was caused by certain environmental factors and/or an intestinal microbial imbalance where certain intestinal bacteria are releasing microbes that are attacking the brain, then I believe that you can holistically re-balance that and reduce the affects of the Autism so that in fact it can be, in effect, like a cure. That has been done and there is evidence that in those cases it has worked. You have to continuously keep the probiotics and intestinal flora and/or the mineral balance in check in order to keep the traits and symptoms under control but it can be done.

What I don't know, however, and what I am not 100% convinced of is whether or not everyone who is Autistic has the same cause. If the causes are different one protocol might not have the same effect on everyone. I am not sure that everyone who is on the Spectrum has an environmental cause or a microbial imbalance.

So far six genes have been identified and linked to Autism. Some may be influenced by environmental/microbial influences but it is very premature to say that everyone who is Autistic is affected for the same reason. But I would encourage anyone who is willing to try to do what you did to try and see how it affects him or her.


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13 Oct 2014, 9:43 pm

A woman I know said that to me recently to explain why she thought somebody was obnoxiously trolling on the internet. I had to bite my tongue, because I prefer to stay closeted in most situations, but I found it annoying that apparently "autism" was becoming the explanation for people acting like as*holes, and this guy didn't set off my "aspie"-dar so much as seem like an actual as*hole (not that the two are mutually exclusive).



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13 Oct 2014, 9:50 pm

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If your Autism was caused by certain environmental factors and/or an intestinal microbial imbalance where certain intestinal bacteria are releasing microbes that are attacking the brain, then I believe that you can holistically re-balance that and reduce the affects of the Autism so that in fact it can be, in effect, like a cure. That has been done and there is evidence that in those cases it has worked. You have to continuously keep the probiotics and intestinal flora and/or the mineral balance in check in order to keep the traits and symptoms under control but it can be done.

What I don't know, however, and what I am not 100% convinced of is whether or not everyone who is Autistic has the same cause. If the causes are different one protocol might not have the same effect on everyone. I am not sure that everyone who is on the Spectrum has an environmental cause or a microbial imbalance.

So far six genes have been identified and linked to Autism. Some may be influenced by environmental/microbial influences but it is very premature to say that everyone who is Autistic is affected for the same reason. But I would encourage anyone who is willing to try to do what you did to try and see how it affects him or her.


The root cause may be genetic, as I've said multiple times before, but it was definitely exacerbated by an intestinal imbalance. Yes, I do need to maintain myself via diet/detox/probiotics etc.

As I've said several times, it could be multiple causes. Doesn't mean that what I've done won't work for others. I can't be sure of whether it's the same cause for others or not, which is why I've encouraged others to try what I've done to see if it benefits them as it has me.

From my experience, I'd guess that it's a combination of genetic predisposition + intestinal flora imbalance & maybe other factors, too. But yeah, basically anyone willing just has to try what I've done for myself and if it works for them too.. fantastic. 8)


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13 Oct 2014, 10:08 pm

I am really glad that you have had success with this and I hope you will continue to. I do think that anyone who is ready to try it should if they want to. Looks like you and I have a similar understanding. It is very interesting research and I am glad to know about it.

And I hope that you did not think I was contradicting you. I was not at all. Truth is, I have not read every post on every thread so I did not know everything you had said about this. I hope you did not think I was being hostile because that was not my intention at all. But I was interested about your thread here because just last night we watched a documentary on the link between Autism and intestinal flora. It was very interesting.


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13 Oct 2014, 10:38 pm

Oh god, not "leaky gut".

m8, I've had Crohn's disease for 14 years. That's a real intestinal disorder.



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13 Oct 2014, 11:30 pm

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She looked at me slightly puzzled and asked me if it was treatable.
I told her yes,


I don't think an ASD is generally treatable, because it would require brain rewiring - to the point of transforming your brain into a new kind of person. It seems like even if they find a cure; it is too late for us.

Did you go through a "brain rewiring" phase, or are you just pretending to be "normal" ?



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14 Oct 2014, 12:34 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
She looked at me slightly puzzled and asked me if it was treatable.
I told her yes,


I don't think an ASD is generally treatable, because it would require brain rewiring - to the point of transforming your brain into a new kind of person. It seems like even if they find a cure; it is too late for us.

Did you go through a "brain rewiring" phase, or are you just pretending to be "normal" ?
While it is not possible to be cured, it is definitely to some degrees treatable, not completely, but it can be reduced a bit.



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14 Oct 2014, 5:52 am

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goldfish21 wrote:
She looked at me slightly puzzled and asked me if it was treatable.
I told her yes,


I don't think an ASD is generally treatable, because it would require brain rewiring - to the point of transforming your brain into a new kind of person. It seems like even if they find a cure; it is too late for us.

Did you go through a "brain rewiring" phase, or are you just pretending to be "normal" ?


No, I didn't go through a "brain rewiring" phase nor pretend to be normal.

I figured out that what was causing my brain to go haywire with ASD & other symptoms was, essentially, actually a completely treatable intestinal bacterial imbalance/infection & how to treat it via diet, herbal medicines, and probiotics. I've described the entire process & protocol in the link in my signature when I shared my story here on WP last Winter.

The end result of what I've done has been a dramatic reduction in all symptoms, like 95%+ reduction, & improved brain functions all around which in the end makes me a whole heck of a lot more "normal" so I don't have to pretend.

Read the link in my sig & feel free to pm w/ any questions/comments. I've learned a couple more things about it since posting that and more articles have come out about ASD research. One of them is that it's likely also some chemical excreted by the bad bacteria that trips out the brain vs. just food chemicals.


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14 Oct 2014, 12:21 pm

actually a completely treatable intestinal bacterial imbalance/infection

m8, there's another way to treat intestinal imbalance too.

Chop out the whole colon. Have a colectomy.

Let me know what you think of that idea.



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14 Oct 2014, 1:13 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
No, I didn't go through a "brain rewiring" phase nor pretend to be normal.
I figured out that what was causing my brain to go haywire with ASD & other symptoms was, essentially, actually a completely treatable intestinal bacterial imbalance/infection & how to treat it via dietp


What about all the research that an ASD person's brain is wired differently ? Temple Grandin shows her CT brain scans in her presentations to show that her brain is wired very differently. Her presentations make me believe that it is the wiring that causes the pros/cons of an ASD.

You seem to be suggesting that ASD people can be vastly differently wired, yet by way of a special diet they can achieve near normalcy ? I think we should expect people who are wired very differently to be very different. She even says in her presentations that brain scans of ASD people show fewer connections in the social parts of the brain.



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14 Oct 2014, 2:09 pm

Yeah, it's likely that things are composed differently in aspie brains than non-aspie ones. The same can be said for other neurological conditions. I don't get why people really can't accept this, since it's the most logical explanation...

Anyways, on the subject of how people use the term autism as an insult, that's probably because the very irritating vocal minority who use their autism as an excuse for absolutely reprehensible behaviour (a certain pokemon/sonic crossover comes to mind) have become somewhat of a stereotype on the internet. I've learned to not get so ruffled about it, since the same people usually defend people who actually have autism in many cases. It seems to be more of an attack on the "bad autie" than anything. As I always say, "don't be that one autie".


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15 Oct 2014, 5:53 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
No, I didn't go through a "brain rewiring" phase nor pretend to be normal.
I figured out that what was causing my brain to go haywire with ASD & other symptoms was, essentially, actually a completely treatable intestinal bacterial imbalance/infection & how to treat it via dietp


What about all the research that an ASD person's brain is wired differently ? Temple Grandin shows her CT brain scans in her presentations to show that her brain is wired very differently. Her presentations make me believe that it is the wiring that causes the pros/cons of an ASD.

You seem to be suggesting that ASD people can be vastly differently wired, yet by way of a special diet they can achieve near normalcy ? I think we should expect people who are wired very differently to be very different. She even says in her presentations that brain scans of ASD people show fewer connections in the social parts of the brain.


It may very well be wired differently. I don't have a scan of my own brain to know. It may be that the different wiring is due to genetic factors. It may be that our brains develop differently due to developing while being under constant attack by the chemical excretions of intestinal parasites and/or food chemicals. I can only guess. If there is a hard wired difference in my brain, and there very well may be, I believe it's only a piece of the puzzle as I know that the intestinal imbalance amplified all of my symptoms to the nth degree & having dealt with the dysbiosis has minimized symptoms and optimized brain functions.

Yes. That's pretty much what I'm suggesting, in a nutshell. I was very different, then I treated the digestive issues, and now I'm only a little different from others, but a LOT different (better) from the way I used to be.

I believe that brain scans in ASD people will show fewer connections in social parts of the brain. But that may be temporary due to chemicals from bacteria or food reaching the brain like a drug effect, or that the brain has formed differently due to the same chemicals, or that there are fewer signals/connections due to missing probiotics that are somehow required to bridge those gaps and/or aid the digestive system in producing neurotransmitters. I'm sure there are several other possible combinations or permutations of potential contributing factors. I'm not pretending to know all the answers. I'm just putting my thoughts out there as to what may be the cause(s) based on my experiences.


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15 Oct 2014, 6:36 am

Goldfish21, I'm glad that you're cured. I seem to have come across a similar thread from you before. I'm going to put this very simply: personal experiance doesn't prove that it will work for anyone except you. Until I see credible scientific evidence from you that this will work for other people, I won't believe that anyone except you has been cured using your methods. I suspect many people here agree with me (even if a small number don't.) I consider this to be spreading false hope, although you are free to do what you like of course. I won't argue about it further. If you have posted scientific evidence before on this site, please put a link to it. That's all I have to say.



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15 Oct 2014, 6:58 am

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Goldfish21, I'm glad that you're cured. I seem to have come across a similar thread from you before. I'm going to put this very simply: personal experiance doesn't prove that it will work for anyone except you. Until I see credible scientific evidence from you that this will work for other people, I won't believe that anyone except you has been cured using your methods. I suspect many people here agree with me (even if a small number don't.) I consider this to be spreading false hope, although you are free to do what you like of course. I won't argue about it further. If you have posted scientific evidence before on this site, please put a link to it. That's all I have to say.


Feel free to search the forum for threads I've created to share news articles about research into probiotic treatments for autism, intestinal issues being the potential cause of autism, and one about an autism conference w/ a presenter sharing the results of a study where more than 100 people on the spectrum no longer showed clinically significant symptoms after being treated by diet alone. I'm far from the only person on Earth who has figured this out. I may be one of very few to go to such extreme lengths beyond diet in order to treat myself, though, I'll give you that.

Further, as I said right from the get go in the thread I posted in my signature last Winter: Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself and you'll know in a matter of days or weeks if it's going to benefit you as it has me. No need to wait 5-10 years for human trials and someone else to tell you that they got dozens of other people to successfully treat themselves and so on. You can figure it out for yourself in a matter of days/weeks - either it works, or it doesn't. There you'll have your proof via personal experience instead of taking anyone else' word for it, or waiting a decade for someone with a medical degree to tell you what you can figure out for yourself in a matter of days or weeks.

I have cross posted several articles. Search for threads I started in the General Autism forum over the last year and you'll find plenty.


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15 Oct 2014, 7:47 am

AdamK wrote:
Goldfish21, I'm glad that you're cured. I seem to have come across a similar thread from you before. I'm going to put this very simply: personal experiance doesn't prove that it will work for anyone except you. Until I see credible scientific evidence from you that this will work for other people, I won't believe that anyone except you has been cured using your methods. I suspect many people here agree with me (even if a small number don't.) I consider this to be spreading false hope, although you are free to do what you like of course. I won't argue about it further. If you have posted scientific evidence before on this site, please put a link to it. That's all I have to say.


I agree with your post I just can't see diet being a magic bullet.