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31 Aug 2015, 2:15 am

I am yet to comprehend why it is that NTs feel the need to make derisive comments about their peers. What makes it all the more flabbergasting is that they seldom state such odious remarks in front of the target in question for the denunciation. Ostensibly it's a never-ending cycle of remorseless deceit.


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31 Aug 2015, 3:12 am

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How about when people talk to others in a condescending way, just because they seem different?

I'm so tired of people talking to me like I'm a friggin idiot. I'm a PhD candidate for crying out loud. How many higher degrees do I have to get before I don't get attitude from people who put too much stock in their own ability to judge IQ?



In a social structure based on hierarchies, this is exactly how it is done.
There is constant testing and challenging.


Soooo true. If you are an adult in wheelchair with an IQ at genius level, they talk to you as if you are IHC, almost deaf and function on the level of a young child.

This is known as 'infantilization'. I found it interesting reading the blog of someone in a wheelchair. Since some of their experiences, especially as a teenager, sound very similar to mine.



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31 Aug 2015, 3:20 am

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I hate it when I say something to someone, and they take it a completely different way than what I mean. Often times, I'll just be literal, and they'll "read between the lines" and assume I'm being a smartass or something.

Maybe they are so used to doing this that they honestly can't tell when 'a cigar is just a cigar'.
Or you are inadvertantly using what are considered code phrases in 'NT speak'.



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31 Aug 2015, 4:34 am

One of the reasons that the novels of Charles Dickens have held lasting appeal despite huge cultural changes since he wrote them in the 19th century is that he had such an acute eye for, and way of describing, everyday cultural hypocrisies that manifested in behaviour of "proper" people, who considered themselves paragons of 'proper' behaviour (ie what they themselves did) and therefore entitled to judge, belittle and scorn anyone whose behaviour or tribe or class was not an imitation of their self-perceived perfect and therefore immensely superior selves. He had a microscope vision for the faults they themselves were blind too, their judmentalism, intolerance, simplistic condescension of others. Because of this and other gifts Dickens had - his warm heart for the different, his hatred of oppression of the less privileged - his work will remain relevant perhaps for centuries to come. He had very little time for these 'good' people, whose goodness was all on the surface, whose souls were bankrupt spaces of spite, envy and whose psychological make-up was we would now might call childish egotism or narcissistic orientation.



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05 Sep 2015, 6:50 pm

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Interrupting people when they're saying something. I've noticed this happen in a group of NT friends. It's annoying, because autistic people are told not to interrupt others, but NTs do the same thing all the time and they aren't thought of as rude or weird for it.

Not responding when someone tries to join a conversation, if that person is considered weird or doesn't fit in.

Not including everyone in a conversation. Ignoring certain people in the group.

Saying things behind people's backs that they would never say to their face.

Whispering during a talk or performance.


NTs can get away with that because they are higher on the social ladder. If you do it, you are weird and rude. And don't point out social dynamics, that will make people really mad. Socialization is a game to them, a game in which the rules aren't usually stated outright.



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05 Sep 2015, 7:02 pm

I've not read all the replies so these may have already been mentioned but blatant queue jumping is very common and annoying. Also people who talk on their mobile phones and pay for their post/shopping and don't even look up/thank the cashier just carry on their conversation like they aren't there.



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05 Sep 2015, 8:46 pm

The way I'm weird and abnormal and need a therapist because I'm socially awkward, but the kids who shout at the tops of their lungs during class, climb on their desks in the middle of a lesson, brag about all the F's they've gotten that marking period on the bus home, and throw crayons across the room during the PARCC are perfectly normal, need no change, and should be emulated.



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06 Sep 2015, 4:01 am

Greenhat wrote:
The way I'm weird and abnormal and need a therapist because I'm socially awkward, but the kids who shout at the tops of their lungs during class, climb on their desks in the middle of a lesson, brag about all the F's they've gotten that marking period on the bus home, and throw crayons across the room during the PARCC are perfectly normal, need no change, and should be emulated.

If you attempted to emulate or ape these people how would you be seen?



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06 Sep 2015, 6:12 am

I hate it when some of us are on a HOA Board and don't make our friends follow the Bylaws. When I was was on the Board everyone followed the rules - I wasn't on it to make and keep friends!! No wonder this place is going to the dogs!! Sometimes NT's just piss me off!!


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06 Sep 2015, 7:29 am

I hate when people go "HUH?" when they didn't hear what was said. It sounds so obnoxious to me. I've had a professor send just "Huh" as an email response to a question I asked.

I hate when someone stands behind me and looks over my shoulder. I don't understand why they think its ok to be so close to me especially when they are behind me.



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06 Sep 2015, 7:42 am

mpe wrote:
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The way I'm weird and abnormal and need a therapist because I'm socially awkward, but the kids who shout at the tops of their lungs during class, climb on their desks in the middle of a lesson, brag about all the F's they've gotten that marking period on the bus home, and throw crayons across the room during the PARCC are perfectly normal, need no change, and should be emulated.

If you attempted to emulate or ape these people how would you be seen?


The teachers would stop liking me and my parents would be furious. I might end up being popular among those kids if I managed to imitate them properly (which I couldn't) and they forgot my history (which they wouldn't).



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06 Sep 2015, 11:05 am

I think these two posts say it all:

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It's because the rules of politeness change according to your social standing.


nomoretears wrote:
NTs can get away with that because they are higher on the social ladder. If you do it, you are weird and rude. And don't point out social dynamics, that will make people really mad. Socialization is a game to them, a game in which the rules aren't usually stated outright.


Everything detailed in this thread is a way to put us in our place. Most people are well aware all those behaviors are rude. Unlike us, however, they know whom they can afford to be rude to and whom they can’t. When someone is distinctly being rude to you, they usually do it to let you know they have no respect for you, nor will they have it, because they simply don’t need to. The more you—weakly—complain and try to make them feel any obligation to respect you, the more they will disrespect you to defend what, to them, is a natural right you are trying to take away from them without being duly qualified for it—i.e., without having the power to force them to respect you. It’s the law of the jungle. The only way to win is to show you are, in fact, more powerful than them. For instance, in a school-playground setting, soundly beating them up would work.

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Schadenfreude (/ˈʃɑːdənfrɔɪdə/; German: [ˈʃaːdn̩ˌfʀɔɪ̯də] ( listen)) is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.[1] This word is taken from German and literally means 'harm-joy.' It is the feeling of joy or pleasure when one sees another fail or suffer misfortune.


Some say …

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06 Sep 2015, 11:06 am

Calling their friends swear words


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07 Sep 2015, 2:30 am

ResilientBrilliance wrote:
I hate when someone stands behind me and looks over my shoulder. I don't understand why they think its ok to be so close to me especially when they are behind me.


I do that sometimes when I want to make a point with a cell phone user that he/she is txt'ing excessively.


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07 Sep 2015, 3:54 pm

I hear NTs talking/whispering during the National Anthem, or during a moment of silence for our nation's colors. Unbelievably disrespectful to our flag, our country and our freedom. I never do any of those things because I need to show respect for the country that I live in.

Almost every NT at my school talks in that horrible "valley girl" slang. "Like, what did like, she like do this weekend? Like, did she like go to a totally rad swag party?" %$@&! !! :evil:
We had to do a speech last week for senior English class. The requirement was to stand and show eye contact. What did I do? Stand and show eye contact all the time. What did the NTs do? Stood there, and either used valley girl slang (like, we went to the ocean this summer and like, it was so fun), swayed their legs around like they were in a boat in bad conditions, or stared at their little note card while talking!! They would get some bad scores on their speeches if I had to grade them.

NTs who stare at their People and US Weekly magazines showing Kardashian gossip, while their kid is crying in the shopping cart. Ugh I hate that. :x
Being pushy at your job. Walk into a retail store, and there's an 18-year-old NT in your face asking you "Hi! How are you doing? What are you looking for today? Can I help you?" You know what, leave me alone and let me look for myself.

And one more thing - talking about inappropriate things at lunch. Last year, I overheard many conversations about d--ks and p---ses at lunch. And this is frickin high school, not middle school! In a public setting, you don't talking about your privates!



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09 Sep 2015, 12:04 am

WAautisticguy wrote:

Being pushy at your job. Walk into a retail store, and there's an 18-year-old NT in your face asking you "Hi! How are you doing? What are you looking for today? Can I help you?" You know what, leave me alone and let me look for myself.


That one I can forgive because they are told to do this by management. I worked at Walmart for 4 years (glad that's over) and we were instructed about the "10-foot rule": if a customer is 10 feet or less away from you, approach and ask "Are you finding everything okay?" or something to that effect. We took it seriously in the event just one customer complained that they weren't asked :roll: --we were made to believe that this was a "termination-worthy" offense.

In my experience, even NTs do NOT want to do this, but they do want to keep their jobs.


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