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ElabR8Aspie
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24 Apr 2017, 2:43 pm

iliketrees wrote:
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You think,there for you are,your own singular belief system and quick to dispel others.
Look outside the square and believe less on what you don't see,less on what you do see.

I haven't a clue what you just said.


In other words,have an open mind.

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How is giving disability benefits profitable? Providing free services? It's a huge area of spending, they want as few people as possible classified as disabled, not as much as possible.


Disability benefits,free services etc,are just one area.

There's also profit from pharmaceutical,doctors,specialists etc etc.


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24 Apr 2017, 2:45 pm

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I just got diagnosed with aspergers like two days ago and I am wanting to talk to other autistic people


G'day Matt99man,your in the right place to find others.


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25 Apr 2017, 12:03 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
There's also profit from pharmaceutical,doctors,specialists etc etc.

I'm not on any drugs, there's none for ASD (only for comorbids such as anxiety, depression, ADHD), and all doctors and specialists are free, since my country (and many others) has universal healthcare.
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In my country it's not profitable, they're giving money in benefits and heavily subsidising healthcare (including doctors, medication, specialists, etc.). Yet ASD remains a disability. Funny that. It's almost like it is or something.

Maybe you should have an open mind if you've convinced ASD is some kind of conspiracy.



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25 Apr 2017, 2:02 am

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I just got diagnosed with aspergers like two days ago and I am wanting to talk to other autistic people

You´ve landed on the right planet :)
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27 Apr 2017, 4:45 am

iliketrees wrote:
ElabR8Aspie wrote:
There's also profit from pharmaceutical,doctors,specialists etc etc.

I'm not on any drugs, there's none for ASD (only for comorbids such as anxiety, depression, ADHD), and all doctors and specialists are free, since my country (and many others) has universal healthcare.
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In my country it's not profitable, they're giving money in benefits and heavily subsidising healthcare (including doctors, medication, specialists, etc.). Yet ASD remains a disability. Funny that. It's almost like it is or something.

Maybe you should have an open mind if you've convinced ASD is some kind of conspiracy.


It's so clear in black and white to you,that you can't see the bigger picture.

It's not a conspiracy,who benefits from the subsidies?

Maybe you should have an open mind and look beyond the forest.

Look outside the square,not your personal beef on trying to win an invalid argument.


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27 Apr 2017, 7:11 am

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I feel that if I wasn't taught from a young age to try to not always be myself and sometimes it is important to conform to social norms, I might have ended up like a real life version of Cosmo Kramer. Instead, I know that I am different than mostly everyone else, but am often too afraid to express who I am to other people because I've been taught from a young age what "normal" is suppose to be. Being taught what "normal" is may have helped me deal with society and may lead me to being more successful in life, but at the same time it may have also helped contribute to social anxiety (and maybe being less happy overall).

So are Aspies really just a bunch of Cosmo Kramers at heart, who are too afraid to express to everyone who they really are and instead trying to conform (and often failing, which may lead to anxiety and depression) to societal norms. Do you think that things would be better for Aspies if we just acted the way we wanted without worrying about other people's opinions?

Replying to an old post but I thought I'd share something that just happened to me a few days ago. I was hanging out with a friend, only the second time we've met, still getting to know each other. She called me an extrovert. I disagreed and said I was an eccentric. After years of sucking at conforming with the rest of the world, I kinda stopped caring. Sure I've learned social skills and know topics to avoid but it's really a case of what I couldn't fix, I flaunted and laughed off. A definition that I had in my head of extroversion is they get energy from being social, It perks them up. Introverts get depleted from social interaction. I get depleted but I do enjoy bringing others into my introverted world, when I have the energy for it. It's kinda a half baked theory but maybe if you struggle to connect with people, let go of the judgments that you feel about yourself and just share yourself with them.



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27 Apr 2017, 11:46 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
It's not a conspiracy,who benefits from the subsidies?

People with disabilities.

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not your personal beef on trying to win an invalid argument.

What's invalid about my argument, and what's my personal beef?



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27 Apr 2017, 3:39 pm

iliketrees wrote:
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It's not a conspiracy,who benefits from the subsidies?

People with disabilities.


And big pharma,doctors,specialists etc etc.

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not your personal beef on trying to win an invalid argument.

What's invalid about my argument, and what's my personal beef?[/quote]

Emitting the above and a personal beef to win at all costs. :heart:


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28 Apr 2017, 12:09 am

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And big pharma,doctors,specialists etc etc.

Pharmaceutical companies are not going to be interested in a disorder which can't be treated with any medication. There is no medication for autism. If there was really some kind of conspiracy going on they would not diagnose autism at all, they'd diagnose only things there actually exists medication for, and diagnose those excessively. Schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, ADHD etc.

It is free to see a doctor or specialist. How do you suppose they benefit from having autistic people exist?

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Emitting the above and a personal beef to win at all costs. :heart:

I'd already specifically mentioned those. And what's my personal beef?



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28 Apr 2017, 3:27 am

iliketrees wrote:
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And big pharma,doctors,specialists etc etc.

Pharmaceutical companies are not going to be interested in a disorder which can't be treated with any medication. There is no medication for autism. If there was really some kind of conspiracy going on they would not diagnose autism at all, they'd diagnose only things there actually exists medication for, and diagnose those excessively. Schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, ADHD etc.

It is free to see a doctor or specialist. How do you suppose they benefit from having autistic people exist?

Omg woman,the only one that doesn't benefit,is the tax payer.
And a 'free service' and 'subsidy' is compensated by the tax payer,simple.
It's the roll on effect.

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Emitting the above and a personal beef to win at all costs. :heart:

I'd already specifically mentioned those. And what's my personal beef?[/quote]

Ignorance perhaps,win at all costs,without looking at the bigger picture.


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28 Apr 2017, 3:28 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
ElabR8Aspie wrote:
And big pharma,doctors,specialists etc etc.

Pharmaceutical companies are not going to be interested in a disorder which can't be treated with any medication. There is no medication for autism. If there was really some kind of conspiracy going on they would not diagnose autism at all, they'd diagnose only things there actually exists medication for, and diagnose those excessively. Schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, ADHD etc.

iliketrees wrote:
It is free to see a doctor or specialist. How do you suppose they benefit from having autistic people exist?

Omg woman,the only one that doesn't benefit,is the tax payer.
And a 'free service' and 'subsidy' is compensated by the tax payer,simple.
It's the roll on effect,that your not seeing.

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Emitting the above and a personal beef to win at all costs. :heart:

I'd already specifically mentioned those. And what's my personal beef?


Ignorance perhaps,win at all costs,without looking at the bigger picture.


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28 Apr 2017, 10:39 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
ElabR8Aspie wrote:
And big pharma,doctors,specialists etc etc.

Pharmaceutical companies are not going to be interested in a disorder which can't be treated with any medication. There is no medication for autism. If there was really some kind of conspiracy going on they would not diagnose autism at all, they'd diagnose only things there actually exists medication for, and diagnose those excessively. Schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, ADHD etc.

It is free to see a doctor or specialist. How do you suppose they benefit from having autistic people exist?

Omg woman,the only one that doesn't benefit,is the tax payer.
And a 'free service' and 'subsidy' is compensated by the tax payer,simple.
It's the roll on effect.

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Emitting the above and a personal beef to win at all costs. :heart:

I'd already specifically mentioned those. And what's my personal beef?


Ignorance perhaps,win at all costs,without looking at the bigger picture.

I really can't understand what you're saying. How does supposedly everyone but the tax payer benefiting from subsidies make autism some sort of conspiracy? How is my supposed ignorance, win at all costs, not looking at the bigger picture a personal beef?

And if it's not a disability but instead a way to make money, how come I genuinely struggle so much at some things?



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28 Apr 2017, 11:30 am

If you earn a good living and always tip well, 20 to 30%, I'm sure the waitresses regard you as eccentric rather than mentally disabled.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:46 pm

Necrokicking this one too since I'm deeply interested in this topic (rather than start a new one).

Nonconforming attitude: Oh yeah, to this day.

Knew in early childhood that he or she was different from others- I actually went through a lot to come to terms with that fact. I basically knew by grade school I was different.

Not particularly interested in the opinions or company of other people: Definitely on both. I'm a non-conformist by nature and I don't really give a guff what most other people think (save for what I have to say to make sure I get a job which has been a challenge lately). I'm also fairly secluded and I don't really enjoy the company of others.

Usually very serious and outspoken: This is probably the reason I get on people's bad side a lot of the time.

Non-fiction is of importance: Yes but I enjoy my fair share of fiction as well.


Only child or first born: First born

Analytical: Deeply so but an abstract thinker nontheless.

Logical perception: Yep

Realist attitude: Most of the time. I'm much the escapist and the daydreamer but my scope of what I want to do and how I view the world is mostly realistic.

Cautious of other people: This was to the point of paranoia at one point. But, yes, overall.

Feels compassion for others: Yes to an extent. This one confuses me a bit ... I generally understand compassion is a feeling and nothing more. I'd hold this in higher regard

Intelligent: IQ of 124, bachelor degree, honors in high school and college. Yeah ... I'd say so.

Preoccupied with purpose in life: Well ... lately. Mostly, it's mostly just wanting to fulfill my function and survive. In later years, this has expanded from simply getting by to, now, trying to live and own to my dreams.

Introverted most of the time: to the nth degree.

It's notable that I'm eccentric or people would say there's something "up" with me. I can't help but imagine if I wasn't diagnosed when I was young(and then finally told about it): Am I eccentric because I was autistic and trying to fit in or am I autistic and do I, therefore, come off as eccentric.



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29 Nov 2019, 8:05 am

I definitely have a lot of eccentric qualities. There is indeed a lot of overlap. I knew that I was different, even from childhood. The not being interested in the company of other people hits the nail on the head too. I relate to being more or less serious but am the opposite of outspoken. Though I am the youngest child, so that is of from the description as well. Analytical fits the bill though. Logical perception is kind of true, but I am also a pretty emotional person, even if I show it in a different way. I relate to being preoccupied with the purpose of life too.

Struggling with social skills can definitely go into the attributes of this. Being socially anxious, avoiding situations or acting differently is also something I heavily relate to. There are only so many situations where the real me can come out to the fullest, but it slips through the cracks.

ASD is such a wide spectrum with a multitude of individuals so I don't think everyone on the spectrum naturally falls under the category of eccentric, but many do. And not everyone who is eccentric is on the spectrum, but it's a possibility. If someone were eccentric though, taking the ASD out of the mix, it doesn't quite affect the wiring of the brain the way that ASD does, and it wouldn't mean that certain stimuli would make it difficult for someone to function.


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29 Nov 2019, 8:09 am

If you succeed - under societal terms - you're an eccentric and a champion.
If you don't, you're mentally ill.

That's how the story goes.