25 Mar 2015, 8:12 pm
Fnord wrote:
slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I got out of poverty by seeking and accepting every form of legal employment available (and few that weren't quite 'ethical'). Dishwasher, line-painter, trash-collector, roofer, telemarketer, septic-tank cleaner, janitor, lawn-mower, storefront 'psychic', snowplow driver, busboy, repo man, toll attendant, ticket-taker, tutor, usher, graffiti remover, ... if it paid, I played. Sometimes I would show up to a construction site and offer to be a 'gopher' ("go-for this, gofer that, gopher the other thing"), and sometimes loaded and unloaded trucks until my back was screaming agony and my hands bloody and blistered. The final "up-and-out" for me was military enlistment in my early 30s. After the previous years' worth of abuse and effort, boot camp was easy. Drill sergeant screaming in my face? No worse that being yelled at by schizos and tweakers! 70 push-ups for sneezing? No worse than lifting and loading 50-pound bags of fertilizer into a semi-truck trailer in July. Institutional food? Hallelujah! It was FOOD! One sure cure for poverty is employment. One sure way to stay in poverty is to be picky about where you'll work and what kinds of work you'll do.
you were a PSYCHIC 
I commend your resourcefulness.Do I assume correctly that you were feigning your 'psychic' ability and regard it as hokum?
25 Mar 2015, 8:19 pm
25 Mar 2015, 8:21 pm
slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I got out of poverty by seeking and accepting every form of legal employment available (and few that weren't quite 'ethical'). Dishwasher, line-painter, trash-collector, roofer, telemarketer, septic-tank cleaner, janitor, lawn-mower, storefront 'psychic', snowplow driver, busboy, repo man, toll attendant, ticket-taker, tutor, usher, graffiti remover, ... if it paid, I played. Sometimes I would show up to a construction site and offer to be a 'gopher' ("go-for this, gofer that, gopher the other thing"), and sometimes loaded and unloaded trucks until my back was screaming agony and my hands bloody and blistered. The final "up-and-out" for me was military enlistment in my early 30s. After the previous years' worth of abuse and effort, boot camp was easy. Drill sergeant screaming in my face? No worse that being yelled at by schizos and tweakers! 70 push-ups for sneezing? No worse than lifting and loading 50-pound bags of fertilizer into a semi-truck trailer in July. Institutional food? Hallelujah! It was FOOD! One sure cure for poverty is employment. One sure way to stay in poverty is to be picky about where you'll work and what kinds of work you'll do.
you were a PSYCHIC I commend your resourcefulness.You tend to be self-critical, and you tend to think outside the box. You have a hard time letting things go, whether good or bad. When you have your mind set on something, everyone else had better clear the way, although at times, your goals are a little unrealistic.
You have eclectic tastes in music and art, and you have yet to find someone who shares your opinions in every respect. Socializing itself is not an easy thing for you, and that "Special Someone" has eluded your best efforts. People tend to disappoint you, and getting close to others takes great effort.
Am I right so far? I sense that I may be a little off on one or two points ...
25 Mar 2015, 8:29 pm
25 Mar 2015, 8:38 pm
25 Mar 2015, 9:11 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
Yep...that's a great new word! For somebody who has "enabled" his/herself to achieve to his/her highest potential.
That's not "Able-ist"--that's "Enable-ist!"
That's not "Able-ist"--that's "Enable-ist!"
So glad that you like it, Kraftie
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25 Mar 2015, 9:31 pm
Fnord wrote:
Yes, a 'psychic' ... among other shady professions that I "Plead the Fifth" on ...
I've never been a psychic, but I've definitely had some of those shady professions that I "Plead the Fifth" on...
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25 Mar 2015, 11:02 pm
26 Mar 2015, 1:41 am
Fnord wrote:
slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I got out of poverty by seeking and accepting every form of legal employment available (and few that weren't quite 'ethical'). Dishwasher, line-painter, trash-collector, roofer, telemarketer, septic-tank cleaner, janitor, lawn-mower, storefront 'psychic', snowplow driver, busboy, repo man, toll attendant, ticket-taker, tutor, usher, graffiti remover, ... if it paid, I played. Sometimes I would show up to a construction site and offer to be a 'gopher' ("go-for this, gofer that, gopher the other thing"), and sometimes loaded and unloaded trucks until my back was screaming agony and my hands bloody and blistered. The final "up-and-out" for me was military enlistment in my early 30s. After the previous years' worth of abuse and effort, boot camp was easy. Drill sergeant screaming in my face? No worse that being yelled at by schizos and tweakers! 70 push-ups for sneezing? No worse than lifting and loading 50-pound bags of fertilizer into a semi-truck trailer in July. Institutional food? Hallelujah! It was FOOD! One sure cure for poverty is employment. One sure way to stay in poverty is to be picky about where you'll work and what kinds of work you'll do.
you were a PSYCHIC I commend your resourcefulness.You tend to be self-critical, and you tend to think outside the box. You have a hard time letting things go, whether good or bad. When you have your mind set on something, everyone else had better clear the way, although at times, your goals are a little unrealistic.
You have eclectic tastes in music and art, and you have yet to find someone who shares your opinions in every respect. Socializing itself is not an easy thing for you, and that "Special Someone" has eluded your best efforts. People tend to disappoint you, and getting close to others takes great effort.
Am I right so far? I sense that I may be a little off on one or two points ...
add to that the desire on the part of the mark to believe that psychics are real and viola another sucker is born
26 Mar 2015, 8:04 am
26 Mar 2015, 8:54 am
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26 Mar 2015, 12:46 pm
QuantumChemist wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
Value poverty
I'd rather be poor as hell than wealthy. You never appreciate things as much when they're easily given.
I'd rather be poor as hell than wealthy. You never appreciate things as much when they're easily given.
So true. A few of my relatives grew up rich and spoiled with everything that they could ever ask for. (How many 10 year old kids have bank accounts in the high five figures and it is not for college?) Since they did not have to work for it with a job, they did not value money the same as someone who grew up poor. I remember a time where they bought out a fireworks stand (yes, the entire supply) because they wanted to. Times changed and the role got reversed on them when their farm started falling apart. That was a hard lesson for them to learn, as they always expected to stay rich living off of the farm account. They now value money much differently because they have to do work to obtain it.
Some truth to this, yeah. I've never had much in the way of savings until the last year or so. I now have growing savings/investment accounts. I work hard for my money and don't get paid much, so it's taken extreme discipline to save up. I also now spend less than ever, too - and yet there's not much of anything I really want. The secret to having everything you want is not to want anything!
Seriously. I've gone from over $100k in debt and bankrupt a couple years ago to multiple five figures in savings/investments. I certainly value it more having earned every penny than if it were handed to me. Also, the things I do value aren't things at all - anyone can enjoy them in poverty or wealth. Having that mentality & embracing the simple things in life, "valuing poverty," so to speak, will most certainly make me a very wealthy man in the long run.
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Aniihya wrote:
Not try to be picky about a job? Then you have never worked very sh***y work environment where you couldn't go to work anymore because you got PTSD from a job that was so degrading and bad. Being picky however beats not willing to work at all.
I am a military veteran with combat experience. If you want to talk about 'sh***y' jobs, you should try mucking out the field latrine with snipers around the camp (been there, done that, came back with a campaign ribbon).THEN you can talk all you want about 'sh***y' jobs.
Kids these days ...
04 Apr 2015, 3:19 am
Fnord wrote:
Aniihya wrote:
Not try to be picky about a job? Then you have never worked very sh***y work environment where you couldn't go to work anymore because you got PTSD from a job that was so degrading and bad. Being picky however beats not willing to work at all.
I am a military veteran with combat experience. If you want to talk about 'sh***y' jobs, you should try mucking out the field latrine with snipers around the camp (been there, done that, came back with a campaign ribbon).THEN you can talk all you want about 'sh***y' jobs.
Kids these days ...A bit OT, but talking about sh***y jobs. When I was little, living in underdeveloped areas. There were many public toilets with no plumbing. Once a while a "poop scooper" drive up with his donkey cart and big poop barrel on it. He would use a long dipper to scoop them up by hand and pour into his barrel. The smell around the cart and the dude was atrocious. The stench was so strong and concentrated they actually condensed to form a layer of saltpeter on the outside of the barrel. Some kids told me they scrape those off to use in illegal firecrackers (like the type with no fuse but explode upon impact). (If you don't believe me look up guano.) People here have no idea the fear he instilled on children. How? Parents would say if you don't do better in school, you might only be fit to do that job. It's enough to scare any kid into working hard on their homework and study all night for their exams.
04 Apr 2015, 5:07 am
04 Apr 2015, 5:21 am
Good for you, Misery. That isn't an easy transition to make, but you made it, and that really impresses me. Take a big bow 
