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Jamesy
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02 Jan 2014, 6:06 pm

Why do people on the spectrum find it harder to drift of to sleep? I never really understood this? :?



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02 Jan 2014, 6:17 pm

I don't know.



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02 Jan 2014, 6:47 pm

Anxiety, perhaps?

I've read that 70% of us on the spectrum are salicylate sensitive. Insomnia is a common symptom of salicylate sensitivity. That may be your chemical explanation. I know it was for me.


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02 Jan 2014, 7:10 pm

Probably due to an insatiable desire to learn more about the mysteries of life and the world...we simply can't switch our brains off.



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02 Jan 2014, 7:34 pm

Jayo wrote:
Probably due to an insatiable desire to learn more about the mysteries of life and the world...we simply can't switch our brains off.


I didn't even realize my inability to drift off to sleep nearly as quickly as most people because my brain won't stop thinking was related to autism. That explains a lot!



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02 Jan 2014, 7:34 pm

Apparently there are abnormalities in melatonin production, which may have a lot to do with it (Souders MC; Mason TBA; Valladares O; Bucan M; Levy SE; Mandell DS; Weaver TE; Pinto-Martin D. Sleep behaviors and sleep quality in children with autism spectrum disorders. SLEEP 2009;32(12):1566-1578.)

There is more here, although much remains speculative.
http://musingsofanaspie.com/2012/11/29/ ... ia-and-me/

I've had sleep problems on and off for my whole life, and it's now been over 2 years since I had a full 8 hours of sleep in one night - it's normally considerably less. This seems to be linked, in a mutually causative fashion, with a growing anxiety problem. I also have the problem that my brain just will not switch off. Maybe I should start watching Hollywood films late at night to disengage my brain before bed.

It's 00:34 local, and I don't expect to be asleep for another 2-3 hours.



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02 Jan 2014, 9:30 pm

when I'm allowed to revert to my natural nocturnal resting time, I fall asleep like a light switch. but when I have to function diurnally, it can take me hours to fall asleep, often just before the alarm bell rings. :hmph:



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02 Jan 2014, 9:57 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

I've read that 70% of us on the spectrum are salicylate sensitive.


But it does wonders for the complexion.....oh wait..... :P



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02 Jan 2014, 10:10 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've read that 70% of us on the spectrum are salicylate sensitive.

But it does wonders for the complexion.....oh wait..... :P

what exactly does it mean to be "salicylate-sensitive"? I thought salicylates were in aspirin.



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02 Jan 2014, 10:14 pm

I seem to be an exception - I generally have no trouble falling asleep. I do enjoy my sleep. The only time I have broken sleep is when I am very stressed.



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02 Jan 2014, 10:18 pm

auntblabby wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've read that 70% of us on the spectrum are salicylate sensitive.

But it does wonders for the complexion.....oh wait..... :P

what exactly does it mean to be "salicylate-sensitive"? I thought salicylates were in aspirin.


I'm not sure either. A quick web search seemed to show a relationship with salicylic acid, which is found in fruits, and my facial cleanser. :shrug:



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02 Jan 2014, 10:26 pm

auntblabby wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've read that 70% of us on the spectrum are salicylate sensitive.

But it does wonders for the complexion.....oh wait..... :P

what exactly does it mean to be "salicylate-sensitive"? I thought salicylates were in aspirin.


Aspirin is a salicylate, but I've done a search on this one, and I'm dubious about a link, For one thing, there doesn't seem to be a link between salicylate sensitivity and insomnia. For another, I haven't turned up a paper on the subject of AS and salicylate sensitivity, just a lot of commentary on parents' web sites in with the stuff on vaccines and woo "therapies".

If someone actually turns up any peer-reviewed research, please post it here.



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02 Jan 2014, 10:29 pm

I have trouble getting myself to go to sleep sometimes, but once my head hits the pillow I'm out pretty quick.
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and usually go on the internet for a while and then fall back asleep.
But mostly I do not have a problem with insomnia. Maybe when I get older I will, but I hope not.



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02 Jan 2014, 10:38 pm

I frequently find my thoughts churning wildly when I lie down to sleep. Reading fiction helps, unless I'm really very anxious about something (especially something that requires me to get up early) - then there's basically no hope at all... :(



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02 Jan 2014, 11:07 pm

I can usually go to sleep quickly enough. It's waking up that's hard for me. I usually wake up then go back to sleep a few times each morning before finally waking up and getting up. And I feel like a zombie for about an hour after I get up, even with 8 hours sleep.



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02 Jan 2014, 11:16 pm

I find often I am awoken mid-sleep by a peculiarly guy thing.