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31 Jul 2015, 10:09 am
I'm a female, but I've often joked that inside I'm a gay man ^.^ I relate far better to males than females. I don't understand most females at all...
And I'm not sure why it matters enough for people to swear it isn't a 1:1. Even if it is 4:1, there is still a problem with the diagnosis bias with people thinking that females can't have it, or because they don't fit how most males present. They already know ADHD appears differently in females, why not autism? So can someone explain why they are positive it isn't a 1:1 and why that matters? I'm really curious.
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I'm a female, but I've often joked that inside I'm a gay man ^.^ I relate far better to males than females. I don't understand most females at all...
And I'm not sure why it matters enough for people to swear it isn't a 1:1. Even if it is 4:1, there is still a problem with the diagnosis bias with people thinking that females can't have it, or because they don't fit how most males present. They already know ADHD appears differently in females, why not autism? So can someone explain why they are positive it isn't a 1:1 and why that matters? I'm really curious.
I care about understanding reality, that's why it matters to me.
I have suspected that the reported ration might not be right since I first began reading about this, but wanted to know, so I find work like the presentation by David Skuse and William Mandy very interesting.
Regarding gender identity, I feel a lot in common with the view expressed recently by Vi Hart on youtube:
But that doesn't have any impact on my interest in the role that the biology of sex plays in autism. There, I am just interested in learning what is actually going on.
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31 Jul 2015, 11:55 am
Adamantium wrote:
kamiyu910 wrote:
I'm a female, but I've often joked that inside I'm a gay man ^.^ I relate far better to males than females. I don't understand most females at all...
And I'm not sure why it matters enough for people to swear it isn't a 1:1. Even if it is 4:1, there is still a problem with the diagnosis bias with people thinking that females can't have it, or because they don't fit how most males present. They already know ADHD appears differently in females, why not autism? So can someone explain why they are positive it isn't a 1:1 and why that matters? I'm really curious.
I care about understanding reality, that's why it matters to me.
I have suspected that the reported ration might not be right since I first began reading about this, but wanted to know, so I find work like the presentation by David Skuse and William Mandy very interesting.
Regarding gender identity, I feel a lot in common with the view expressed recently by Vi Hart on youtube:
But that doesn't have any impact on my interest in the role that the biology of sex plays in autism. There, I am just interested in learning what is actually going on.
Ok, that makes sense. It's kinda like how fibromyalgia affects women more than men and stuff like that. I think for me, the numbers don't matter so much as the overall view (such as, are women really being passed over due to gender bias, or are more effeminate males or those forced into more social rolls being passed over as well, etc). I am really curious to know how many are being passed over because of things like being forced to socialize or having someone take them under their wing and teaching them the ropes, mainly because that's what happened with me, and how many women I see in parenting groups who have children who are being diagnosed and they're saying, "But I do that too..." Some of them do seek a diagnosis, but others are either in denial or have no desire to know.
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31 Jul 2015, 12:01 pm
Adamantium wrote:
Regarding gender identity, I feel a lot in common with the view expressed recently by Vi Hart on youtube: .
Yeah, what she said there summed up how I think too. When I discovered not everyone thinks like that I thought maybe something was wrong and I worried excessively about it like a moron. Thankfully I don't think I posted on WP all my idiot thoughts. Now I just don't think about it and feel the same way she does in the video, for the most part. Do slightly wish I had the male body rather than female but still. I'm a girl, whatever. I bet somewhere there's a label for whatever my thoughts are on my gender in the depths of tumblr, I imagine, but I don't see what point that'd serve. I'm female.
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31 Jul 2015, 2:15 pm
I think the autism criteria and diagnostic application of the criteria are now broad enough that females who don't meet the criteria are not autistic instead of the criteria being too narrow.
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31 Jul 2015, 2:37 pm
btbnnyr wrote:
I think the autism criteria and diagnostic application of the criteria are now broad enough that females who don't meet the criteria are not autistic instead of the criteria being too narrow.
I think the problem can be detecting autism in girls rather than diagnosing them. I think once it's picked up they do diagnose, but there seems to be problems getting to that point. Like girls with autism are less likely to have challenging classroom behaviour, and assessing what's behind the behaviour can be what leads to diagnosis in boys. At least in ones without language delays, anyway. So I think there needs to be more understanding on the symptoms girls have rather than changing the criteria.
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31 Jul 2015, 2:45 pm
I am female, and I see that even though the poll revealed to be only slightly less females on this site, I feel that society does think we're virtually non-existant. Just I feel society thinks women who like video games and technology and non-domestic professional cooking don't exist.
It surprises me 7% are another sex other than male or female.
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31 Jul 2015, 6:33 pm
progaspie wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I'm a Kink.
Maybe the purpose of the poll isn't clear, but isn't it to do with the perceived gender in-balance between biological males and biological females who are on the autism spectrum. The third category in the poll, I assume to take as intersex. Wouldn't it be better to take a separate poll on those people on the autism spectrum who categorize themselves as transgender?
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I don´t feel particularly female and I´m still at war with my female body. As a kid and a youngster I was actually pissed off by not being born a boy. Never could understand girlish interests, but participated just to try to adjust. I didn´t participate in boys activities either. Would never have been accepted as a peer. As a teen, I chose to be the slightly boyish loner - sneering at convention and giving the social club the finger.
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