do ALL autistic people have developmental delays?

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24 Apr 2020, 10:51 pm

Autism is a developmental disorder



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24 Apr 2020, 11:02 pm

Autism is a developmental disorder categorised by history of distress or developmentally delayed in social communication,restricted interests and repetitive behavior and probably sensory issues and speech delay (not all autistics have speech delay and sensory issues), at least when your a legally a minor

Although Autism is a developmental disorder, you can be autistic and have all the milestones and/ or have all the milestones ( such as social skills, but normally people with autism have issues with social skills) later in life, esp if Autism is very mild, but it is at least required that you have abnormal prospective of your self that causes developmental distress at least when your legally a minor



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25 Apr 2020, 7:21 am

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I had training wheels on forever but once I got it, I was very proficient. I had a 2x 30 minute coordination class in elementary school . Met twice a week where I assisted recess for kindergarten. It helped me pick up skills yet I didn't know at the time . I enjoyed helping.

Other times counselor at school did Transaction Analysis workshops with me. The school district provided all these aids.

I had forgot about training wheels. I had them on my bike for a long time too. My aspie daughter the same way. Both of us now drive cars, my daughter after much practice driving. A driving instructor once said to me "Your going to get some killed some day". No one's been injured by our driving yet however :roll:.

FranzOren wrote:
(not all autistics have speech delay and sensory issues)

I wonder about the sensory issues statement. I know it is not required for a diagnosis, but does any know of someone ASD without sensory issues?


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25 Apr 2020, 9:08 am

In my own case I haven't found the concept of developmental delays useful in understanding my ASD, regardless of what the experts say. From my perspective, the fact that they give the idea so much weight seems to reflect too glib an understanding of me and those similar to me, and I suspect it might be down to too much of a NT-centred way of seeing things.

No known delays in academic ability, in fact I was usually ahead of the other kids. I fell behind later on when the expectations became less Aspie-friendly, but I discovered my own ways of getting by, and to this day I wouldn't be able to get much out of a lecture unless I happened to be fascinated with the subject. I still can't easily fathom what a teacher means from the context if they're not uncommonly clear, I still can't keep up if they talk too fast, and I can't remember much afterwards unless they slow down to dictation speed.

I remember some toilet training trouble, but that was down to hyperfocus - I couldn't stop playing with my toys in time when I needed to empty my bladder. I eventually stopped having those accidents, but I think all that really happened was that I developed abnormally strong bladder control. To this day, I wait till I'm almost bursting before breaking off an activity that interests me, even knowing the risk that somebody else might occupy the bathroom first. So I don't see it as delayed development, it's more of a permanent impairment with a coping strategy.

Socially, I didn't experience much of a problem till I was about 9 years old. Again, I think it was a case of never really catching up with NTs - it might have looked that way superficially, but for example I became more successful with people by adopting a rather different approach to that of NTs rather than slowly learning to play the standard social games.

In short, I don't think I've experienced a delayed "growing out of" much, it's much more a case of having permanent differences and developing unusual coping strategies, many of which wouldn't be necessary if I lived in a world where everybody was like me.



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26 Apr 2020, 7:55 am

I was "delayed" growing up but these days most of my "delays" are related to my upbringing more then my mental capacity



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26 Apr 2020, 12:13 pm

According to my mother, my developmental delays were mostly socially related. I walked, spoke, and did those things at an average age and I actually began reading at 3 years old and I was early to write too. I was not quick to want to interact with the other kids at my preschool and I parallel played for longer than is typical, I guess. The staff noticing that was what led to them referring my mom and I to a specialist and me getting diagnosed.


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21 May 2020, 4:26 am

I spoke and walked very early and could pick up some social cues but then I lost those milestones



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21 May 2020, 9:06 am

I spoke very late. I couldn’t write until after I turned 6. Forget about “social cues” in that I was pretty oblivious until high school age.

It’s certainly a developmental disorder within me.



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21 May 2020, 2:51 pm

If you say "all" and there is one exception, the whole statement is wrong



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21 May 2020, 4:24 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
If you say "all" and there is one exception, the whole statement is wrong

Can't fault your logic there.



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22 Jul 2020, 11:59 am

CarlM wrote:
spinelli wrote:
I had training wheels on forever but once I got it, I was very proficient. I had a 2x 30 minute coordination class in elementary school . Met twice a week where I assisted recess for kindergarten. It helped me pick up skills yet I didn't know at the time . I enjoyed helping.

Other times counselor at school did Transaction Analysis workshops with me. The school district provided all these aids.

I had forgot about training wheels. I had them on my bike for a long time too. My aspie daughter the same way. Both of us now drive cars, my daughter after much practice driving. A driving instructor once said to me "Your going to get some killed some day". No one's been injured by our driving yet however :roll:.

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(not all autistics have speech delay and sensory issues)

I wonder about the sensory issues statement. I know it is not required for a diagnosis, but does any know of someone ASD without sensory issues?





Some with Autism don't have sensory issues


You sound very rude and ignorant



Autism is a spectrum from profound to very mild



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22 Jul 2020, 12:09 pm

I have history of developmental delay


My history of Learning Disability, with some symptoms of Autism Spectrum and Other Pervasive Developmental Disorder:



( from my early to late childhood and some symptoms are still present in adulthood )





● don’t know how to do simple math at all
● I might have a hard time to distinguish fact from fiction, but I could see right through some visual illusion and might seem not to be susceptible to some kinds of optical or might not be fooled by illusion
● I don't see illusions normally
● I sometimes have a hard time grasping what is fake and real
● developed social skills much later than usual
● speech delay ( I used to have speech delay a long time ago )
● coordination problems ( I don't have the problem anymore )
● late potty training ( I don't have that problem anymore )
● delusional interests and repetitive behaviors
● self-injuries or self-abuse ( I don't have that problem anymore )
● sensory Issues







I don't have trouble with social skills at all anymore, even though I do have history of developmental delay and reports that in childhood and early adolescents that I had developmentally delayed milestones and delusional perspective of myself that is part of developmental delay




Some of my symptoms looks like Schizophrenia, but it is actually symptoms of severe Learning Disability, with some symptoms of Autism Spectrum and other Pervasive Developmental Disorders



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29 Jul 2020, 4:35 pm

No. I began walking and talking earlier, if anything.


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29 Jul 2020, 4:50 pm

Not sure about walking. Taught myself to read around the age of 3. Would talk about 'Disney Walt' , which I could only have got from the index volume of the Children's encyclopaedia Britannica my father had bought.



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29 Jul 2020, 9:16 pm

PeachCastella wrote:
do all autistics have developmental delays like in walking, talking, learning, etc? i had significant talking and learning delays ( i have kanners)
yes. That is by definition. Autism is a developmental disability. You must have developmental delays to be Autistic. Developmental delays is what the definition of a developmental disability is.


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29 Jul 2020, 9:18 pm

The delays don't have to be in motor skills but they have to be in the criteria that they are required to be in.


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