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darthweezer
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11 Jul 2017, 12:58 pm

I know this topic has been discussed numerous of times but I figured I would chime in as well. I feel like I am not human but I feel like I see things better than the humans do. So I feel like I am right and they are wrong. I dont know. I am knew to understanding myself and it seems like I still dont understand myself. I am glad there are others out there that I can quasi decently relate to but it is still hard. Single, jobless, on disability, and this is probably too much information but I just want to figure out why I am always in the friend zone or cant save money or get irritated because of sitcoms and how they mostly promote sex appeal or how I just dont agree with anything I see among the humans. Oi vey. The doctor who episode where he just waits in the clouds because he feels like humans are not worth saving anymore, that is kinda how I feel sometimes and kinda tired of the lying and manipulating and the lust and things of the sort.



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11 Jul 2017, 1:21 pm

I think most humans believe that they are more right and smarter than most humans. We are a fairly vain race. Autistic people are just more honest about it.



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11 Jul 2017, 1:25 pm

Simplicity at it's finest lol. I hope my post does not sound rude or anything.



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11 Jul 2017, 7:42 pm

darthweezer wrote:
Simplicity at it's finest lol. I hope my post does not sound rude or anything.


Since I have the POV of also being autistic, I'm not offended at all. After all the times I was seen as less intelligent as I am, I kind of have a chip on my shoulder about it. I think these things are kind of like us saying "No - YOU'RE stupid. Ha!"

I love Who and Star Trek myself. Vulcan was always a favorite of mine. (I'm such an autistic stereotype.) I used to pretend that it was Saavik teaching me my math in high school and I've had imaginary mediation sessions with Spock. Good times.



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11 Jul 2017, 8:05 pm

darthweezer wrote:
I know this topic has been discussed numerous of times but I figured I would chime in as well. I feel like I am not human but I feel like I see things better than the humans do. So I feel like I am right and they are wrong. I dont know. I am knew to understanding myself and it seems like I still dont understand myself. I am glad there are others out there that I can quasi decently relate to but it is still hard. Single, jobless, on disability, and this is probably too much information but I just want to figure out why I am always in the friend zone or cant save money or get irritated because of sitcoms and how they mostly promote sex appeal or how I just dont agree with anything I see among the humans. Oi vey. The doctor who episode where he just waits in the clouds because he feels like humans are not worth saving anymore, that is kinda how I feel sometimes and kinda tired of the lying and manipulating and the lust and things of the sort.


This is a great post and welcome to WP. Autism can be tricky when it comes to perspective. One thing common in autism is what's called black and white thinking, so there's the tendency to think you're always right about something. I've learned though a lot of communicating online like with this forum, that there's sometimes nuances to a situation that I don't pick up on when I think I'm right about something.

Autism is weird because at least in my case I am extremely intelligent in some ways and obtuse in other ways. I'm very intelligent in how I communicate, but I am severely behind when it comes to other things. I have a high verbal IQ but a low performance IQ.

A lot of us relate to fish-out-of-water characters like a Vulcan aboard a ship full of illogical humans or a Time Lord dealing with them. And then there's this feeling of why do I feel so much smarter than them, but seem to do so poorly in real life? It doesn't make sense really and it is very confusing. Talking with other people with autism on this forum and reading what others have to say in general, has helped me to know that I'm not the only one who experiences these sorts of things. And there's often those who have perspectives that help me understand myself and understand how I perceive things better.



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12 Jul 2017, 12:19 am

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This is a great post and welcome to WP. Autism can be tricky when it comes to perspective. One thing common in autism is what's called black and white thinking, so there's the tendency to think you're always right about something. I've learned though a lot of communicating online like with this forum, that there's sometimes nuances to a situation that I don't pick up on when I think I'm right about something.

Autism is weird because at least in my case I am extremely intelligent in some ways and obtuse in other ways. I'm very intelligent in how I communicate, but I am severely behind when it comes to other things. I have a high verbal IQ but a low performance IQ.

A lot of us relate to fish-out-of-water characters like a Vulcan aboard a ship full of illogical humans or a Time Lord dealing with them. And then there's this feeling of why do I feel so much smarter than them, but seem to do so poorly in real life? It doesn't make sense really and it is very confusing. Talking with other people with autism on this forum and reading what others have to say in general, has helped me to know that I'm not the only one who experiences these sorts of things. And there's often those who have perspectives that help me understand myself and understand how I perceive things better.


I can relate to that and was said that I was probably not autistic because my communication skills and body language reading were high up there in score. I had to explain that most of my life, prior to my diagnosis, I have had to rely on body language to get a feel for what people where really saying. But then there are things I have no clue what the meaning is. But I can relate to what you are saying. It is nice to get different perspectives. Due to other challenges I have a hard time trusting counselors and things of the sort so I try to just talk to people who have been there done that got the t shirt so to speak anyways sorry for rambling. I really like the feedback and it helps a bit to get a better understanding of my self



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12 Jul 2017, 12:13 pm

EzraS wrote:

Autism is weird because at least in my case I am extremely intelligent in some ways and obtuse in other ways. I'm very intelligent in how I communicate, but I am severely behind when it comes to other things. I have a high verbal IQ but a low performance IQ.



I can sort of relate to this , my GF is convinced I have a high IQ and also comments on my intelligence. I have no idea what my IQ is but I don't feel very intelligent although I base this on my flaws ( poor social skills , no self awareness etc ).


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12 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm

I have a high IQ am knowledgeable about theoretical physics, psychology, philosophy, art, sociology etc.

In life I am a bumbling idiot ha ha unless around other non typicals.

Though I can still perform highly in job roles, I never get anywhere as my attentions always go all over the place...

Seems to be a common thing.

Society ain't 'stupid,' it just is what it is not what we / you wish it would be as I think we tend to see how simple things could be if everyone was simple and honest and not greedy etc.

Trick is to either get involved and try to change it or like the old serenity prayer, learn the serenity to accept the things you cannot change; courage to change the things you can; and wisdom to know the difference....

I often wish I had been born in a socialist egalitarian society, but alas, I live in what I call 'Poundworld' / TV-world lol.

Just don't obsess on it, human nature is as human nature is....

I also feel I can see the grand scheme and see more long term while most people in society live in the moment and are caught up in the details, so yeah like a sort of time lord lol. I am trying to be less like this when necessary and use the rest for writing....