Do Certain Derogatory Words Bother You
CC2501
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Spot on - language scientists call this the "euphemism treadmill". Slang words get overused sometimes, so that they lose their punch or get people into trouble, and young people often like to have their own slang to set themselves apart from their parents' generation; so people find new ones. The word "ret*d" was once only a formal medical term, just like "autistic"; but it got picked up as a slang insult, and spread so widely that the "official" meaning got lost. And before doctors started to use "ret*d", they used words like "idiot" and "moron" as technical terms - "ret*d" was introduced partly because those words had become such common insults.
Words shift in meaning like this all the time, but with slang and insults, it tends to happen much faster. In a sense, there is no such things as a "derogatory word", only derogatory ways of using them; and sometimes there is a general agreement that using a certain word at all is derogatory.
We can't ban "autistic" as a word to stop it being used in an insulting way, because then we'd lose the proper use too. But if the nasty use became common enough, we might decide that finding a new name for autism was the only thing left to do. The only lasting solution would be a world where people don't throw insults at each other - we can encourage this by promoting respect and tolerance for diversity. But so long as there are vindictive people in the world, there's not much that can be done to stop the meaning of words getting shifted like this.
Exactly. Well put!
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CC2501
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I don't like the word Aspergers, but that's mainly because I can only think of: Ass Burgers and it sounds stupid to me that way.
Thank you. You feel the same way I do, as I also had a relative who had a severe disability. I try to just use it in quotations too. It really offends my stepmom too, and for a while it offended her more than me, just because of everything with my stepbrother. I have said it in front of her twice, the first time not knowing it was that bad of a word, and the second time when I got really mad and frustrated (I was much younger when these incidents happened), and the second time I got sent to bed for the night and my phone was taken away for the night. Glad to see another person who hates the term "ret*d".
Also, can I ask you a question. How did you put the things like your "Aspie Score" (if that is the correct thing to say) on the bottom of your posts or profile or wherever?
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CC2501
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Spot on - language scientists call this the "euphemism treadmill".
We can't ban "autistic" as a word to stop it being used in an insulting way, because then we'd lose the proper use too. But if the nasty use became common enough, we might decide that finding a new name for autism was the only thing left to do. The only lasting solution would be a world where people don't throw insults at each other - we can encourage this by promoting respect and tolerance for diversity. But so long as there are vindictive people in the world, there's not much that can be done to stop the meaning of words getting shifted like this.
The problems with finding new words for legitimate words that have become weaponized are
1. The next words are usually boring and less descriptive ie manic-depression to bi-polar
2. The bullies win again
3. The new words will inevitably become pejoratives and will have to be abandoned and the euphemism treadmill will keep on keepin’on.
At some point the euphemism treadmill needs to be euphemistically smashed to pieces. But I don’t hold much hope for that anytime soon, the trend is the opposite and accelerating.
How long before before before the word autistic is abondoned to the bullies?
Well put. Everything you said here is so true.
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You go into "My Account" and then you add things like that if you wish to the signature area. You can preview your entries before submitting them.
CC2501
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You go into "My Account" and then you add things like that if you wish to the signature area. You can preview your entries before submitting them.
Awesome. Thank you!
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You go into "My Account" and then you add things like that if you wish to the signature area. You can preview your entries before submitting them.
Awesome. Thank you!
Since the topic has come up, I notice you list your AQ score as 34 out of 40. I suppose that is a typo for 34 out of 50?
Today's update of a webcomic I read is actually kind-of about this topic:
https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3945
I'm just curious. You refer to yourself as a she in the text, but your profile says male. Why's that?
I'm just curious. You refer to yourself as a she in the text, but your profile says male. Why's that?
Longtime member Cockney is transgender. Female by birth/anatomy but prefers to be called "him", but if he quotes others talking about him in the past he has to quote them as saying "she" I assume.
Spot on - language scientists call this the "euphemism treadmill". Slang words get overused sometimes, so that they lose their punch or get people into trouble, and young people often like to have their own slang to set themselves apart from their parents' generation; so people find new ones. The word "ret*d" was once only a formal medical term, just like "autistic"; but it got picked up as a slang insult, and spread so widely that the "official" meaning got lost. And before doctors started to use "ret*d", they used words like "idiot" and "moron" as technical terms - "ret*d" was introduced partly because those words had become such common insults.
Words shift in meaning like this all the time, but with slang and insults, it tends to happen much faster. In a sense, there is no such things as a "derogatory word", only derogatory ways of using them; and sometimes there is a general agreement that using a certain word at all is derogatory.
We can't ban "autistic" as a word to stop it being used in an insulting way, because then we'd lose the proper use too. But if the nasty use became common enough, we might decide that finding a new name for autism was the only thing left to do. The only lasting solution would be a world where people don't throw insults at each other - we can encourage this by promoting respect and tolerance for diversity. But so long as there are vindictive people in the world, there's not much that can be done to stop the meaning of words getting shifted like this.
Exactly. Well put!
It is well put. Sadly its the truth. The word "ret*d" itself was adopted in Fifties by the medical community as a euphemism for earlier terms (like moron, and imbecile) , only to become an insult on the lips of every baby boomer grade school kid on the playground a few years later in the Sixties. So in the Seventies they were dreaming up euphemisms for THAT euphemism, like "challenged".
For those interested in this storyline, that was today's comic. It updates daily at https://questionablecontent.net
CC2501
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You go into "My Account" and then you add things like that if you wish to the signature area. You can preview your entries before submitting them.
Awesome. Thank you!
Since the topic has come up, I notice you list your AQ score as 34 out of 40. I suppose that is a typo for 34 out of 50?
I took it on some website that has the scores out of 50. Aspietests.org is where I took it. I have other test scores I need to upload.
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CC2501
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For those interested in this storyline, that was today's comic. It updates daily at https://questionablecontent.net
That's a great comic!
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CC2501
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Spot on - language scientists call this the "euphemism treadmill". Slang words get overused sometimes, so that they lose their punch or get people into trouble, and young people often like to have their own slang to set themselves apart from their parents' generation; so people find new ones. The word "ret*d" was once only a formal medical term, just like "autistic"; but it got picked up as a slang insult, and spread so widely that the "official" meaning got lost. And before doctors started to use "ret*d", they used words like "idiot" and "moron" as technical terms - "ret*d" was introduced partly because those words had become such common insults.
Words shift in meaning like this all the time, but with slang and insults, it tends to happen much faster. In a sense, there is no such things as a "derogatory word", only derogatory ways of using them; and sometimes there is a general agreement that using a certain word at all is derogatory.
We can't ban "autistic" as a word to stop it being used in an insulting way, because then we'd lose the proper use too. But if the nasty use became common enough, we might decide that finding a new name for autism was the only thing left to do. The only lasting solution would be a world where people don't throw insults at each other - we can encourage this by promoting respect and tolerance for diversity. But so long as there are vindictive people in the world, there's not much that can be done to stop the meaning of words getting shifted like this.
Exactly. Well put!
It is well put. Sadly its the truth. The word "ret*d" itself was adopted in Fifties by the medical community as a euphemism for earlier terms (like moron, and imbecile) , only to become an insult on the lips of every baby boomer grade school kid on the playground a few years later in the Sixties. So in the Seventies they were dreaming up euphemisms for THAT euphemism, like "challenged".
Yep. A shame.
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The word "ret*d " doesn't bother me but when people say "that's f*****g autistic " and stuff like that it makes me irritated but I just assume they are children who don't know any better (when I see it online ) I never heard anyone say it in person though but I would just ignore it then too and assume they don't know any better .
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