MagicKnight wrote:
I had many toxic relationships in the past. At least one of them was most probably in the narcissistic spectrum but since I'm not a mental health professional, I can't possibly know. For a long time I thought I was the problem, that I don't know how to pick good partners. That's not what I think now.
It's very difficult to spot toxic people. They mask themselves very well. It's true that if I weren't so vulnerable a person, I would have made better choices. Anyway, what toxic people want for us to think is that we are to blame for everything that happened to us. They want us to carry their guilt. At some point though, we must break off the loop and accept that our vulnerability and loneliness is what takes us to those kind of personalities.
If we ever had those kinds of people in the family, so much the worse. It's possible that we grew up with other relatives saying that such and such toxic people "aren't all that bad" and that we should tolerate them. If we are taught to tolerate them in our intimate circle, our minds will probably tolerate them out on the streets and institutions.
You make several excellent points. Try not to blame yourself if you can, narcissists, in particular, are experts in hiding what they are for as long as necessary and "covert" narcissists are incredibly insidious. Plenty of socially astute NTs fall prey too.
Your last paragraph is something most people refuse to talk about or acknowledge, so my hat's off to you for spotting it and speaking up. Individual members of a family, entire families and even society as a whole often gaslights victims of emotional abuse. As an adult, you're expected and supposed to be able to deal with them in a similar passive-aggressive and manipulative manner as they use (confronting is discouraged and even punished), but as kids, we are often "groomed" to accept emotional abuse until it becomes normal (the intentions are not necessarily malevolent but that's neither here or there).
As an adult, you'll feel tremendous pressure from family members not to break ties with your abusers (but deal with them in the manner mentioned above) and one of the most efficient ways of spotting when someone is doing this to you is when they insist you should accept and tolerate behaviours that they would consider unacceptable from a spouse or stranger. Don't be fooled.
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