Is every symptom of ADHD & dyspraxia an autism symptom?

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22 Jun 2022, 12:47 am

Just seems that way.

All these dyspraxia symptoms have been listed on autism sites as also being autism traits, even though I do not have dyspraxia.

Poor balance. ...
Poor posture and fatigue. ...
Poor integration of the two sides of the body. ...
Poor hand-eye co-ordination. ...
Lack of rhythm when dancing, doing aerobics.
Clumsy gait and movement. ...
Exaggerated 'accessory movements' such as flapping arms when running.
Tendency to fall, trip, bump into things and people

And all these ADHD symptoms seem to be mentioned as being autism symptoms too:-

Disorganization and problems prioritizing
Poor time management skills
Problems focusing on a task
Trouble multitasking
Excessive activity or restlessness
Poor planning
Low frustration tolerance
Frequent mood swings
Problems following through and completing tasks
Hot temper
Trouble coping with stress

I know these conditions tend to overlap but it seems that all these symptoms are said to be autistic traits, which means everyone with autism should have ADHD and dyspraxia too. Also every symptom of every other neurological disorder/mental illness seems to be a symptom of autism too, like depression, anxiety, social anxiety, bipolar, schizophrenia, dementia, intellectual disabilities, etc etc, all seem to be autism too.
Then all the neurotypical/normal human traits become autistic traits too...

Where is the line drawn? Is autism every neurological disorder/mental illness/disease put together? It seems to have about a million symptoms...

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Diagnosed with ADHD
Have Anxiety Disorder
Diagnosed with mild ASD but I don't identify as autistic


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22 Jun 2022, 4:28 am

Some autistic people, especially those with “classic,” non-Aspergers autism, actually have excellent balance. Sometimes, though, they have what is called “verbal apraxia,” which could severely affect their speech.


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22 Jun 2022, 6:53 am

I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD. That was never even mentioned when they hit me with the autism; out of far too much psychiatric, no one has once brought up ADHD with me. I'll take some online tests just to have a look. They say I don't have ADHD.

I'm not all that clumsy innately. It's mostly unrelated things that happened later on that caused clumsiness for me.