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23 Dec 2023, 8:56 am

I know the stereotype is that we're supposed to have a hard time talking, but I started talking very early. Everything else was delayed, but yacking my jaws was not. Is anyone else like this? Also, the next person who tells me I'm not autistic because of that can go kick rocks.



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23 Dec 2023, 5:30 pm

If I'm feeling confident, energetic, and reasonably sure of positive attention, I may talk very articulately and quite fast. In my younger and less wise days I was often falsely confident and falsely convinced of positive attention, and of course youth is an energetic time, so I would often data-dump on people. Now I'm more easily-tired and wiser, I don't talk so often, though if you count talking to myself then it still happens quite a lot.



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23 Dec 2023, 7:24 pm

If I were in one of those chattering moods.
But it's mostly illusion, behavior at best than skill or ability. It's not really articulate, nor is truly voluntarily like how emotional expressions are not voluntary.

The only reason why I even got a label Asperger's at diagnosis was only and only because of lacking 'speech delay'.


Otherwise, I have language processing issues (writing, reading, speaking, listening -- all of these are affected and gets worse with stress) that doesn't even seem to improve with practice and an uneven cognitive profile that doesn't favor verbal IQ (which is average at best).


Also I can go on, not speak for days.
It gets complicated with former special interests and specific (unwanted) hyperfixations and habits related to reading and writing...
Auditory processing issues on top of that. I don't script, I likely have a form of echolalia as a stim and string a bit better sentences with singing than talking.

All of this writing and seemingly hyperverbalizing is this apparent compensation over my own lack of being and having concise terms to a lot of things, not knowing how to say it in the shortest way, a lot of paraphrasing, feeling underexpressed, and on top of seemingly disorganized internal processes even related to words and verbal recall.

Also all aspects of verbal language processing always and always feels unnatural, no matter the level of performance I ended up attaining, no matter which habit or even addictions I picked up related to the verbal medium.

It's not a really comfortable process -- it's just seem fast enough to look average, as if second nature or far from apparent slowness -- but it is not natural in my head.
It felt like translating several layers before reaching to me as how I understand it and then back to the outputs I have to give out.


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23 Dec 2023, 7:55 pm

For me it's not the words themselves, it's the fact that there are hidden meanings that people don't say that throws me off. I also can't take verbal directions to save my life. Basically it's like I speak a different language from everybody else. And oh yeah, I was the queen of info dumping on people. I was a real chatterbox, but it was all about whatever I was stuck on. These days I'm not as chatty because I'm afraid I'll info dump and annoy people.



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23 Dec 2023, 10:15 pm

I was like this as a kid. I could monologue endlessly. (I eventually realized that this annoys others and learned some restraint.) My AS son is the same. But he can also go days without talking at all; it's one extreme or the other.


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23 Dec 2023, 11:44 pm

^
I think that's quite common with ASD - talking either a great deal or hardly at all, nothing in the centre.



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24 Dec 2023, 5:34 am

I used to have a really hard time going out for walks with my young daughter because she would talk incessantly, usually about fairies which she was obsessed with. I realised she was talking to soothe herself. It was a stim, effectively. She found the environments we were walking in overwhelming (forests mainly so lots of trees and movement and nature noise) so she would block it all out by retreating into fantasy and talking non-stop about it. She still does it to some extent.


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24 Dec 2023, 6:51 am

I think ASD is all either one extreme or the other. Just curious, but does anyone still monologue in their head? I still do this hard even though I try not to do it out loud.



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24 Dec 2023, 7:37 am

hyperlexic, tested as gifted with words, vocabulary, and reading comprehension. Its the only part of me that "works as expected" so I have relied on words all my life to make sense of my world. At 25th percentile visual processing and 35th percentile audio/hearing processing, I miss way too much in "real time" interactions. Reading and writing is my key to understanding and interacting. forums like this are perfect for my abilities, I stink at communication and understanding in the 'real world' because my processing simply can't keep up at the speed with which such interactions proceed.


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24 Dec 2023, 11:39 am

TikvaBall wrote:
I think ASD is all either one extreme or the other. Just curious, but does anyone still monologue in their head? I still do this hard even though I try not to do it out loud.

Yes I do, though I don't know where the line is between that and normal thinking. And I find it easier to think clearly when I say my thoughts out loud, so as long as I'm not likely to be overheard, I usually do that.



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24 Dec 2023, 9:44 pm

TikvaBall wrote:
I think ASD is all either one extreme or the other. Just curious, but does anyone still monologue in their head? I still do this hard even though I try not to do it out loud.

Yes. I very occasionally am caught doing it aloud.


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24 Dec 2023, 10:44 pm

Yes. Spoke prolifically about my interests. Literally read encyclopedias and dictionaries for enjoyment. Was repeatedly told I talked too much, so I made a point to try cutting back, and was eventually successful.


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26 Dec 2023, 9:25 pm

I'm old enough that my initial diagnosis was 'Non-Verbal Learning Disorder'. Essentially a sort of autism where verbal skills manifested quickly but other skills lagged behind. This is apparently a great way to get the 'gifted and talented' label applied to you because early education teachers look to verbal acumen as a main way to determine the intelligence of a child.



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26 Dec 2023, 9:44 pm

i'm very shy at first
but once i'm comfortable i've been told it's difficult to get me to stop talking

i do crave communication often, which is why i joined a few forums and chatrooms. it's nice to talk to other people when i get bored of my internal dialouge