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04 Oct 2007, 3:59 pm

If there was a war between NTs and Autistics, Would you be involved? Whos side would you be on? How would you handle it? What if Autistics won, how would you react, would you be happy or upset, frazzled or just totally confused?

I was wondering this.. I would be on Autistics side, I don't hate NTs but sometimes they really get to me, like interrupting my normal routine, bullying me, not caring one bit, treating me like I have down syndrome :x . I wouldn't know what to do though, I guess I would hold my ground, and if we won, I would be alittle frazzled, not knowing what will happen next, and a part of me would be happy so I wouldn't have to hear the word Cure again :? !


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04 Oct 2007, 4:02 pm

i'd join the hippies


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04 Oct 2007, 4:08 pm

Age1600 wrote:
If there was a war between NTs and Autistics, Would you be involved? Whos side would you be on? How would you handle it? What if Autistics won, how would you react, would you be happy or upset, frazzled or just totally confused?

I was wondering this.. I would be on Autistics side, I don't hate NTs but sometimes they really get to me, like interrupting my normal routine, bullying me, not caring one bit, treating me like I have down syndrome :x . I wouldn't know what to do though, I guess I would hold my ground, and if we won, I would be alittle frazzled, not knowing what will happen next, and a part of me would be happy so I wouldn't have to hear the word Cure again :? !


If there was such a war, we would be hopelessly crushed and outmatched in a war of attrition. Plus, the organization and cooperation of the "NT's" would be far superior to ours.

But, I don't want war, I would much rather live in peace with my fellow NT's :D . Why be so violent?


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04 Oct 2007, 4:09 pm

"Conscientious Objector"



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04 Oct 2007, 4:12 pm

NTs arent exactly shy about expressing their desire to commit genocide against the aspie people (through prenatal testing and "cures") so why should I believe NTs existence to be desirable much less necessary?

Id obviously be on the ASDs side but we would be severely outnumbered.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:15 pm

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NTs arent exactly shy about expressing their desire to commit genocide against the aspie people (through prenatal testing and "cures") so why should I believe NTs existence to be desirable much less necessary?


I don't think so. Your going to have to show some documentation for a pretty wild claim such as this. And you are going to have to define "genocide", because to my knowledge genocide is the attempt to wipe out a particular race or ethinic group, and autism is neither of those.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:26 pm

This is sounding oddly like X-Men.



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04 Oct 2007, 4:28 pm

This is sounding oddly like ioditic bigotism



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04 Oct 2007, 4:34 pm

goof question.

but im an excelent strategist, so i choose to be officer. :P



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04 Oct 2007, 4:36 pm

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because to my knowledge genocide is the attempt to wipe out a particular race or ethinic group, and autism is neither of those.


Because no one in authority has declared it as such?

People with a highly inheritable genetic trait such as skin color or eye shape are considered a separate race or ethnic group why not brain structure? Does the trait have to be superficial? Who decided that?


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04 Oct 2007, 4:41 pm

Fraya wrote:
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because to my knowledge genocide is the attempt to wipe out a particular race or ethinic group, and autism is neither of those.


Because no one in authority has declared it as such?

People with a highly inheritable genetic trait such as skin color or eye shape are considered a separate race or ethnic group why not brain structure? Does the trait have to be superficial? Who decided that?


The other problem I had with your post was that you effectively hold anyone not autistic responsible for the possible actions of a small minority, and declared they had no right to an existance!



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04 Oct 2007, 4:42 pm

I'd probably mediate. I do admit though, I'm feeling fed up but I don't like chaotic situations such as war so I'd rather reach a peaceful resolution and have both sides just talk it out. It's the way you reach better understandings. I've also noticed that there are ways you talk to people and if you meet that person's communication needs, you get more done.



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04 Oct 2007, 4:48 pm

Without wanting to start a war or something I actually get where this question might be coming from.
I was asking myself something similar after posting a slightly playful remark on the " declare ourselves a minority" thread, about IF, IF it turned out that asd was def determined by genes rather than environmental factors, or , seeing as I don't believe that, IF asd was an out of control runaway train of a mutation resulting from weak gene patterns acted on just that bit too much by environmental toxins , then asd people might be the next evolutionary offshoot from the species tree, suddenly favoured by the nature of modern society, sedentary, fragmented, abstract etc , and on internet...... and if so would it be a bit like the neanderthals and cro-magnon?! Disappearance of NTs in the isolating, increasingly solitary , in the head, world of asd's? ! !! :evil:
Cos I love this internet world. This suits me so well!!
I wouldn't exactly FIGHT,; I'd just stay on the internet.
On the other hand I do like wandering out into the sunshine on a nice day and drinking a coffee at the cafe terrace and watching real bodies move to and fro in front of me. 8) Not for too long tho!
Are hackers friends or foes? They crash the very systems so many aspies and auties are increasingly reliant on!! :? :roll: :?: Or
It's just a story, right, for fun?! ! God, the thought that there might genuinely be a new species branch is freaky!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ok, i admit it , I'm a sci-fi geek!



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04 Oct 2007, 4:49 pm

holdsteady wrote:
This is sounding oddly like ioditic bigotism


That was my second thought.



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04 Oct 2007, 4:51 pm

sarahstilettos wrote:
The other problem I had with your post was that you effectively hold anyone not autistic responsible for the possible actions of a small minority, and declared they had no right to an existance!


Turnabout is fair play.


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04 Oct 2007, 4:53 pm

Fraya wrote:

Because no one in authority has declared it as such?

People with a highly inheritable genetic trait such as skin color or eye shape are considered a separate race or ethnic group why not brain structure? Does the trait have to be superficial? Who decided that?


Well, if you really want to get into the specifics of race, there are only three in a genetic sense: Caucasian (black and white), Mongoloid (black and white), and Negro (Black).

The idea of ethnic groups comes primarily from where they are geographically located and their particular culture, religion, etc.

Brain structure on the otherhand is usually the same among all people regardless of race or ethnicity, since the genes regarding brain size and brain structure are mostly the same for all people. People with autism are actually missing quite a few copies of those genes; here is a link from NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=8926283

In short, anybody regardless of race or ethnicity can have autism. That's why I don't consider autism a race or minority in any sense.


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