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24 Nov 2007, 3:14 pm

Have you ever undergone a type of mind altering experience that altered your state of consciousness? What was your experience and were there any lasting benefitial results that you'd care to share?


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24 Nov 2007, 3:29 pm

Yes, I once had an awake dream. It revealed to me what I didn't know about people. It changed my whole outlook.


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24 Nov 2007, 4:53 pm

....an out-of-body-ish experience in 1992, in a lull after about 3 years of manic-depression;( actually wasn't lull; was depression ), lying on bed after awful sick-headache had bashed me around ( and i had tried banishing it with coffee, cider, coca cola,and cigarettes, before taking an aspirin and being very sick!), and suddenly see me, my body there separate from me, battered and exhausted, and think "i would not treat an animal like this", and feel sudden sorrow for this poor creature lying there. I begin to weep for this being, and turning on to my stomach on the bed my hands begin to wipe my tears away. Feeling my hands doing this I think "my body loves me and would do anything for me" and I kiss my hands.

Until very very recently i thought unquestioningly that this had been a positive experience, as if i had been visited by "jesus or something equivalent", showing how my body represents the power of god ( the gene) made flesh; as if i had learned compassion; as if i learned to see humans more clearly; as if i had been given a moment of grace.
It gave me a new perspective. It propelled me into the search for paradise lost, to be found again if could only look after body well enough, and later if could cleanse my mind well enough. It started me on a new journey of discovery.
But the key emotions were guilt and desire to repay, worship devotedly , propitiate, and buy, earn more of that love. I thought i had to pay for this "love" that i had felt.
I thought that i had to "be good" to have it.
Maybe an error.
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24 Nov 2007, 5:07 pm

I've had lots of things happen to me. Night terrors are pretty bad, so is sleep paralysis. Never had a out of body experience though.

Many times I had a horrible nightmare followed by this endless period (at least it seemed that way) where I was trapped in this state of terror, and then I came to only to find I couldn't move at all. When I finally awoke for real it took quite a while to stop shaking. These things happen to me from time to time. When I was younger and still quite religious, I thought demons were doing this to me. That idea seems quite silly to me now, but the memories of these episodes still disturb me.

On a better note, I daydream quite intensely and can go into a trance where I leave reality far behind. I've gotten some interesting inspirations from these.



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24 Nov 2007, 11:30 pm

Well what about going into deep Theta waves from playing certain video games, music or driving long distances on straight roads. That's freakin an altered state!



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25 Nov 2007, 12:51 am

I had glandular fever in highschool and I halucinated for about three days.

Very interesting experience.


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25 Nov 2007, 1:35 am

There was one time I had a dream (I was about 7 years old), and I was able to take over the dream. Not just lucid dreaming... it was more than that. I basically became god of my own little universe for the rest of the night, remaking my dream as I saw fit. Following that dream experience, I didn't have another dream for about 10 years...

The only other major mention would be one time I was listening to "Imaginary" by Evanescence on my ipod as I was dozing off and I swear I thought time had actually crawled to a stop.

One last note: one could consider the half-awake state I am in immediately after waking up to be an altered state. I often have to drive to school in this state, where I am aware enough to go to the bathroom, drive, and form memories of these events. I can't speak, eat, drink, or perform most other functions while in this state, and it lasts for about an hour after I wake up.



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25 Nov 2007, 12:35 pm

Greentea wrote:
Yes, I once had an awake dream. It revealed to me what I didn't know about people. It changed my whole outlook.


Anything profound you can share?


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25 Nov 2007, 12:37 pm

wow.

I keep reading about these out of body experiences - and I think I want one.


ouinon wrote:
....an out-of-body-ish experience in 1992, in a lull after about 3 years of manic-depression;( actually wasn't lull; was depression ), lying on bed after awful sick-headache had bashed me around ( and i had tried banishing it with coffee, cider, coca cola,and cigarettes, before taking an aspirin and being very sick!), and suddenly see me, my body there separate from me, battered and exhausted, and think "i would not treat an animal like this", and feel sudden sorrow for this poor creature lying there. I begin to weep for this being, and turning on to my stomach on the bed my hands begin to wipe my tears away. Feeling my hands doing this I think "my body loves me and would do anything for me" and I kiss my hands.

Until very very recently i thought unquestioningly that this had been a positive experience, as if i had been visited by "jesus or something equivalent", showing how my body represents the power of god ( the gene) made flesh; as if i had learned compassion; as if i learned to see humans more clearly; as if i had been given a moment of grace.
It gave me a new perspective. It propelled me into the search for paradise lost, to be found again if could only look after body well enough, and later if could cleanse my mind well enough. It started me on a new journey of discovery.
But the key emotions were guilt and desire to repay, worship devotedly , propitiate, and buy, earn more of that love. I thought i had to pay for this "love" that i had felt.
I thought that i had to "be good" to have it.
Maybe an error.
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25 Nov 2007, 12:40 pm

Cool. I think it has to do with how much access you have to your subconscious. The closer you are the more likely you are to have these unworldly trips. I can disasociate pretty much on command but it has more to do with getting *out there* than deep into my psyche and tripping in. I don't seem to have access to those places......



bassackward wrote:
I've had lots of things happen to me. Night terrors are pretty bad, so is sleep paralysis. Never had a out of body experience though.

Many times I had a horrible nightmare followed by this endless period (at least it seemed that way) where I was trapped in this state of terror, and then I came to only to find I couldn't move at all. When I finally awoke for real it took quite a while to stop shaking. These things happen to me from time to time. When I was younger and still quite religious, I thought demons were doing this to me. That idea seems quite silly to me now, but the memories of these episodes still disturb me.

On a better note, I daydream quite intensely and can go into a trance where I leave reality far behind. I've gotten some interesting inspirations from these.


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25 Nov 2007, 12:42 pm

Ticker wrote:
Well what about going into deep Theta waves from playing certain video games, music or driving long distances on straight roads. That's freakin an altered state!


Yeah for sure. Time out of mind, I think it is.


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25 Nov 2007, 12:42 pm

Unknown_Quantity wrote:
I had glandular fever in highschool and I halucinated for about three days.

Very interesting experience.


What did you see?


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25 Nov 2007, 12:42 pm

I'll come to a sudden realization of something months after it happens (I call them 'epiphanies'...;)



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25 Nov 2007, 12:52 pm

Meditation brightens up my entire day. I think it's something to do with seeing things through your respective-coloured glasses than harsh reality.
But since we're human and harsh reality is just a different coloured pair of glasses, I'd rather see things through mine, thanks.



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25 Nov 2007, 2:04 pm

I had analysed a certain issue to death, for years, and gotten to no conclusion. I was very frustrated that week, especially that day. Suddenly, a movie unfolded in front of my eyes, but I was awake. In each scene, I looked for the scene that gave birth to that one, and it was shown to me.

I didn't know what it was till my therapist said I had had a lucid dream, or whatever it's called in English.

I guess that, as you say, my unconscious showed me things that I knew but not consciously.


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25 Nov 2007, 2:36 pm

Broad subject... I think I've done a fair range of altered states. I've found most to be just... interesting. Even the successful astral travelling.

(Successful in the sense that I attempted a physical action at a distance of about 15 miles, then verified it independently. Wildly low coincidence probability... but they happen. It doesn't make me "believe" in astral travelling. "If it's a million to one against, then it'll happen tomorrow.")

The only altered state I can't say a lot for is drunkenness. Quite enjoyable at the time, but I finish up with blank patches. Nothing particularly special about them, as people have not found me to behave any differently. Just complete lack of recall - hence wasted time.


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