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09 Jan 2008, 11:24 pm

What's an autism stereotype that you have broken? Are there more than one? Tell us. Spread the truth.

I have friends. They aren't friends with me just out of pity for me. They are friends of all ages, of all backgrounds. I have aspie friends, NT friends, bipolar friends, depressed friends, "normal" friends, strange friends, introverted friends, extroverted friends (some of these friends have more than one trait; I don't have thousands of friends or anything), best friends, good friends, teacher friends, parent friends, nice friends, strong friends, manic friends, racially diverse friends, non-american friends . . .

I belong and am accepted in groups. I am a member of Alpha Chi and Sigma Alpha Iota. I'm in a community band that ranges from age 16 to age 76. I belong to a Sunday school that ranges in age from 23 to 85.

I have empathy for others. Do I react "normally" to others' pain? No. But that's in large part to my feeling that a lot of that kind of posturing is fake and empty (not all, just a lot). I let those people know that I am there to help them anytime they need help. Other people say that too, but when the chips are down, more often than not, I'm the only one who has been honest about the offer.

I worry about other's feelings. Do I still hurt their feelings on occasion? Yes, but never on purpose. Often it's for things that I wasn't even aware I was doing.

I am a person. I'm not just an aspie. When I am in the "real" world, I do not judge other people on the basis of their labels. I judge them according to how they treat me and how they treat the people around them. I am wary of people who say one thing and do another.

We are all human beings. We all breathe. We all cognate. We all try to communicate.

What can you do?


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09 Jan 2008, 11:33 pm

lastcrazyhorn wrote:
What's an autism stereotype that you have broken? Are there more than one? Tell us. Spread the truth.

....
We are all human beings. We all breathe. We all cognate. We all try to communicate.

What can you do?


I have been married. I have kids. (Not that unusual, but a stereotypical autistic person could never be married and would probably never have kids - unless it was a girl and she had been molested against her will....)

I can't remember dates well at all. I have a horrible time with remembering numerals. I get embarrassed and even in trouble fairly often because I can't keep track of numerals.

"What did you pay for that new thing ...?" "I don't remember, something like, 30 or 50 dollars ...maybe?"

"What year did you .....?" "I don't know... maybe it was 2002 or maybe 2004?"

"What number did he say?" "I don't know but it was somewhere around 40 and the numerals were more angular than round... so maybe it was 47 or 41, definitely not 39" (I don't have synaesthesia).


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09 Jan 2008, 11:38 pm

i beat depression and suicidal thoughts



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09 Jan 2008, 11:40 pm

autism_diva wrote:

"What number did he say?" "I don't know but it was somewhere around 40 and the numerals were more angular than round... so maybe it was 47 or 41, definitely not 39" (I don't have synaesthesia).


Synaesthesia doesn't always help either.

"Oh um, well it was a green word, so it either started with a c, g, s or t . . . "


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09 Jan 2008, 11:41 pm

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i beat depression and suicidal thoughts


Ditto. By myself too, because the therapist I was seeing didn't think I was depressed. :roll:


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09 Jan 2008, 11:43 pm

lastcrazyhorn wrote:
autism_diva wrote:

"What number did he say?" "I don't know but it was somewhere around 40 and the numerals were more angular than round... so maybe it was 47 or 41, definitely not 39" (I don't have synaesthesia).


Synaesthesia doesn't always help either.

"Oh um, well it was a green word, so it either started with a c, g, s or t . . . "
:D

Thank you for sharing that. I have been secretly very jealous of people with synaesthesia thinking that they had memories that had super power and could practically not forget a thing. I'm still a little jealous. I think it would be great to have synaesthesia.


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09 Jan 2008, 11:53 pm

I have obsessions but no accompanying special skills. Unless I do and don't know their special skills. I Have no endurance for focusing. Isn't that rotten, obsessing over stuff that I can't focus on? 8O
I like being around a lot of people.
I have empathy-even if it doesn't show.



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09 Jan 2008, 11:53 pm

autism_diva wrote:
lastcrazyhorn wrote:
autism_diva wrote:

"What number did he say?" "I don't know but it was somewhere around 40 and the numerals were more angular than round... so maybe it was 47 or 41, definitely not 39" (I don't have synaesthesia).


Synaesthesia doesn't always help either.

"Oh um, well it was a green word, so it either started with a c, g, s or t . . . "
:D

Thank you for sharing that. I have been secretly very jealous of people with synaesthesia thinking that they had memories that had super power and could practically not forget a thing. I'm still a little jealous. I think it would be great to have synaesthesia.


No way. My memory's lousy. I can remember what stuff looks like like you do, but since there are only so many colors . . . I mean, c, g, s and t are all different shades of green, it doesn't mean that I'll always remember which one.

a, e and 3 are all sort of yellow-orange (but varying levels of . . .)
b, 2 and 8 are all varying shades of blue
c, g, s, t and 6 are all varying shades of green
d and 7 are both different types of purple
f, j, n, p, w and 9 are all varying types of orange
h, m and 5 are reds
i and 1 are white
k, o, q, x and 0 are blackish
l and y are yellowish-white
r and z are grayish
u is gray
v and 4 are pinkish


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10 Jan 2008, 12:22 am

I'm just copying and pasting these out of a post I made. I'd say I'm lazy, but I'm more like just too exhausted to answer this particular open-ended question after spending over an hour and a half putting some really, really, really, really, really nastily complex boots (that's a link to a picture of the monsters) on a friend who doesn't have enough staffing, while meanwhile having neck and general joint problems myself (just not as bad as the back problems my friend has).

(Thereby breaking the stereotypes where I am supposed to be selfish and lack empathy, and where difficulty doing some things for myself is supposed to also mean inability to do them for anyone else, despite the fact that the angles and sensations are totally different.)

So, I'm just going to quote a bit pile of stereotypes I violate, some of them pertaining to autism.

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* People who use mobility aids such as wheelchairs, canes, crutches, walkers, etc. must use them full-time.
* Autistic people who are non-speaking or nearly so, must always have had no speech.
* Autistic people who are non-speaking or nearly so, must be non-speaking entirely because of autism, not because of something else.
* Autistic people can never pass to be normal or ‘just eccentric’.
* Autistic people can only pass for normal or ‘just eccentric’, never for anything else.
* Autistic people who pass can never stop passing, or if they do it’s always by choice.
* Autistic people are only allowed to lose certain skills within a short window in the first few years of life.
* Autistic people only lose certain skills right after a vaccination.
* Autistic people, when they lose skills, only lose skills because they are autistic, never because of anything else.
* Autistic people, when they lose skills, never gain skills at the exact same time.
* When autistic people lose skills, it’s always immediately obvious to everyone around them that this is what’s going on.
* The time an autistic person is diagnosed reflects the time that they became (or appeared) autistic, rather than the time anyone else noticed.
* Everything unusual that an autistic person does is because they’re autistic, they never have additional conditions (i.e. the “difference slot“).
* Autistic people are completely unaware of other people and their surroundings.
* Autistic people can’t communicate at all.
* Autistic people live in their own little world.
* Autistic people have one pattern of mannerisms all the time and never vary them and never lack those mannerisms altogether.
* Autistic people are incapable of love.
* Autistic people can only be interested in one thing.
* Autistic people who have an interest in people always look (to people who think that standard gestures of interest are the only way of showing interest) like they have an interest in people.
* Autistic people can either speak to communicate or not speak to communicate, never alternating between both, and certainly never some odd in-between state.
* Autistic people who chatter on and on about their interests are a ‘kind’ of autistic person, and that ‘kind’ of autistic person never has trouble communicating in speech and/or language.
* When an autistic person needs everything the same, you can really tell.
* Autistic people who have meltdowns do it for no good reason.
* Autistic shutdowns always take the form of falling asleep.
* Autistic people are never classified as gifted.
* People classified as gifted never lose that classification as they get older.
* When autistic people violate stereotypes (such as, in my case, doing things like failing to hide my facial hair), it’s because they don’t know any better, never because they have made a reasoned choice to do this.
* Autistic people who do advocacy work don’t really care about other autistic people, they just want to make trouble and/or go on an ego trip.
* Autistic people who do advocacy work or other work that pertains to autism can really only speak from their own experience, they never have expertise from other sources than their own experience.
* People who can’t take care of themselves, can’t take care of anyone else either.
* People with movement disorders always have the exact same degree of difficulty with movement in all situations.
* People with movement disorders have the same degree of difficulty with all forms of movement.
* Disabled people have no sexuality.
* Disabled people never have more than one thing going on at once (that difference slot again).
* Women who are romantically interested in women have never dated men.
* Autistic people have never dated anybody.
* There is no difference between the act of producing speech or typing, and the act of using speech or typing for communicative purposes.
* There is no difference between the act of producing speech or typing that sounds right (or approximately right) for the situation, and producing speech or typing that actually communicates what the person is thinking (unless the person is being deliberately misleading).
* Disabled people always have the exact same type and degree of difficulty with something, it never changes or fluctuates or anything.
* Lesbians can’t also be Christians.
* Two people with the same disability label are going to have the exact same difficulties with everything, or else one or the other of them should not have this label.
* Whatever the majority of the current society a person is in considers “a disability”, is the same thing every society a person could be in considers “a disability”, there is no such thing as a set of strengths and difficulties that in one place and time is considered within the realm of normal and in another place and time isn’t.
* Because of the last stereotype, if a person is not noticed as “disabled” by the society they live in at one time, then they must not have had the same condition that another society (or even another part of society) considers “disabling”.


(full post here)


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10 Jan 2008, 12:23 am

I can go out and enjoy myself (although on my own terms)
I do socialise (mainly with people I share interests with)
Totally lousy at mathematics



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10 Jan 2008, 1:36 am

I have a social life.
I'm very creative.
I'm very empathetic.


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10 Jan 2008, 1:44 am

I hopefully want to get married one day, ive been dating an NT guy for 1 year and 11months hehe, and I'm not the highest functioning autie always. I really honestly dont know how he sticks around, but he wants to get engaged soon and i'm still in shock that i even have a boyfriend haha.

I also drive, noobody even my parents thought i could ever master that, i mean heck it took me almost 16 years to brush my own hair :lol: lol.


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10 Jan 2008, 3:09 am

Stereotypes:

I don't speak of my interest, nor am I verbose (we all know that "aspies" cannot stop talking of such)
I'm not a "geek" (all "aspies" are)
I only like computers for games and communication (all "aspies" work in IT)
I don't want to know people (all "aspies" curse their social impairment and wish to interact with their peers)
I can talk (as we all know that autistic people can only sing their favorite television commercial over and over again)
I can cut my own hair, cook, clean and other various self-help stuff (we all know that autistic individuals could never do this)
I'm not educated (we all know that people with AS do well in school)

Misconceptions:

I look "normal"



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10 Jan 2008, 4:23 am

I am totally and completely useless with computers. Right now, I'm typing these words with my tongue. Which is the right way to do it. I think.



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10 Jan 2008, 4:24 am

Stereotypes:

I have friends. (Yes, they still count even if I do only see them about once a month. We aren't going to stop being friends just because we haven't seen each other for a while, we aren't 8 years old, for God's sake.)

I've had a serious relationship that was working until we found that we disagreed on the issue of whether or not to have kids.

I work with people. (One-on-one, teaching about my primary interest, in a fairly structured setting.)

I almost never have meltdowns (although I have come very close, many times).

People, for the most part, seem to like me, even if most of them don't try to make friends with me.

I can cope with changes in my routine, in a good deal of cases.

I'm not a computer expert/maths whiz/science expert.

I enjoy being well-dressed.


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10 Jan 2008, 4:26 am

anbuend wrote:
I'm just copying and pasting these out of a post I made. I'd say I'm lazy, but I'm more like just too exhausted to answer this particular open-ended question after spending over an hour and a half putting some really, really, really, really, really nastily complex boots (that's a link to a picture of the monsters) on a friend who doesn't have enough staffing, while meanwhile having neck and general joint problems myself (just not as bad as the back problems my friend has).

(Thereby breaking the stereotypes where I am supposed to be selfish and lack empathy, and where difficulty doing some things for myself is supposed to also mean inability to do them for anyone else, despite the fact that the angles and sensations are totally different.)

So, I'm just going to quote a bit pile of stereotypes I violate, some of them pertaining to autism.

Quote:
* People who use mobility aids such as wheelchairs, canes, crutches, walkers, etc. must use them full-time.
* Autistic people who are non-speaking or nearly so, must always have had no speech.
* Autistic people who are non-speaking or nearly so, must be non-speaking entirely because of autism, not because of something else.
* Autistic people can never pass to be normal or ‘just eccentric’.
* Autistic people can only pass for normal or ‘just eccentric’, never for anything else.
* Autistic people who pass can never stop passing, or if they do it’s always by choice.
* Autistic people are only allowed to lose certain skills within a short window in the first few years of life.
* Autistic people only lose certain skills right after a vaccination.
* Autistic people, when they lose skills, only lose skills because they are autistic, never because of anything else.
* Autistic people, when they lose skills, never gain skills at the exact same time.
* When autistic people lose skills, it’s always immediately obvious to everyone around them that this is what’s going on.
* The time an autistic person is diagnosed reflects the time that they became (or appeared) autistic, rather than the time anyone else noticed.
* Everything unusual that an autistic person does is because they’re autistic, they never have additional conditions (i.e. the “difference slot“).
* Autistic people are completely unaware of other people and their surroundings.
* Autistic people can’t communicate at all.
* Autistic people live in their own little world.
* Autistic people have one pattern of mannerisms all the time and never vary them and never lack those mannerisms altogether.
* Autistic people are incapable of love.
* Autistic people can only be interested in one thing.
* Autistic people who have an interest in people always look (to people who think that standard gestures of interest are the only way of showing interest) like they have an interest in people.
* Autistic people can either speak to communicate or not speak to communicate, never alternating between both, and certainly never some odd in-between state.
* Autistic people who chatter on and on about their interests are a ‘kind’ of autistic person, and that ‘kind’ of autistic person never has trouble communicating in speech and/or language.
* When an autistic person needs everything the same, you can really tell.
* Autistic people who have meltdowns do it for no good reason.
* Autistic shutdowns always take the form of falling asleep.
* Autistic people are never classified as gifted.
* People classified as gifted never lose that classification as they get older.
* When autistic people violate stereotypes (such as, in my case, doing things like failing to hide my facial hair), it’s because they don’t know any better, never because they have made a reasoned choice to do this.
* Autistic people who do advocacy work don’t really care about other autistic people, they just want to make trouble and/or go on an ego trip.
* Autistic people who do advocacy work or other work that pertains to autism can really only speak from their own experience, they never have expertise from other sources than their own experience.
* People who can’t take care of themselves, can’t take care of anyone else either.
* People with movement disorders always have the exact same degree of difficulty with movement in all situations.
* People with movement disorders have the same degree of difficulty with all forms of movement.
* Disabled people have no sexuality.
* Disabled people never have more than one thing going on at once (that difference slot again).
* Women who are romantically interested in women have never dated men.
* Autistic people have never dated anybody.
* There is no difference between the act of producing speech or typing, and the act of using speech or typing for communicative purposes.
* There is no difference between the act of producing speech or typing that sounds right (or approximately right) for the situation, and producing speech or typing that actually communicates what the person is thinking (unless the person is being deliberately misleading).
* Disabled people always have the exact same type and degree of difficulty with something, it never changes or fluctuates or anything.
* Lesbians can’t also be Christians.
* Two people with the same disability label are going to have the exact same difficulties with everything, or else one or the other of them should not have this label.
* Whatever the majority of the current society a person is in considers “a disability”, is the same thing every society a person could be in considers “a disability”, there is no such thing as a set of strengths and difficulties that in one place and time is considered within the realm of normal and in another place and time isn’t.
* Because of the last stereotype, if a person is not noticed as “disabled” by the society they live in at one time, then they must not have had the same condition that another society (or even another part of society) considers “disabling”.


(full post here)


Oh, you are SO fired. :D You are not allowed to break or seriously bend more than 5 stereotypes. I think you have about 33 of them there, and those are only the ones related directly to autism.

I think I break the stereotype that autistics don't have a sense of humor and aren't creative. But maybe I'm not as funny or creative as I think I am. :D


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