Being The Class Clown or Office Clown and Aspergers

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11 Feb 2008, 2:27 am

Do you think that someone being the class clown in school or the office clown at work is an indication that person might have Asperger's?


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11 Feb 2008, 2:33 am

no, not an INDICATION.

i think a person with AS could be a class clown, since i have heard people on here say they can be briefly funny and likeable in public but it is exhausting for them, but i don't think most class clowns have AS.


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11 Feb 2008, 2:55 am

I think my natural personality is to be a class clown. I like being irrelevant, and not having a care towards assumed authority. I especially like it, when it's know by both me and the supervisor that they really don't have any real power... then I play around with the expectations and the attitude I'm supposed to have. I'm not offensive, I just treat them more like equals...

For example in High School band class, I was being explained something I think I already knew... or shown something by the band teacher. He was being fairly authoratative... and he was fairly arrogant and dictator-ish... so I said "anything you say chief" and saluted him. I was a loser nobody in band class, so he didn't really make a big deal out of it... except roll his eyes and furrow his brow. But it got quite the chuckle out my fellow students.

This is contrasted by my flip side of being extremely paranoid and neurotic about how I'm acting around others... and trying not to offend or give off the wrong impression. Especially around people I don't know.

I think I improved moral at my old job. Although my fellow employees liked making fun of me, they also liked my antics and weird of way of saying and doing things. The big social problem I have is just not knowing how much I affect people around me. I assume I don't get noticed or am not liked, when that really isn't the case.

I don't think it's a sign of me having AS though. Because when my AS symptoms are at their worst, when I feel really overwhelmed... I don't act like a clown at all. And it's very easy for me to go into my shell... and not really talk to anyone.


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11 Feb 2008, 3:04 am

I'm an Adder and I have always used humor to socialize.
I'd say that I really don't do well just having conversations with folks unless I am making jokes... usually at my expense.

I can have intelligent conversations, but those do not occur on an everyday basis at work or elsewhere.

Being a clown helps me feel part of the crowd.. I have a role and I can fill it... people want to interact with me because I'm 'so funny' :roll:

I definitely get tired of it though.

Many times at work, when I meet someone in the hall, I either just go and say the usual greetings stuff like "hi how are you doing?", etc, or I make some sort of joke or witty comment.
When I try to find something serious to say that might create a serious conversation, I just can't.
I get more looks as if I said something wrong or incoherent than the opposite.

I do wish I could just ignore folks most of the time and go about my business, but I impulsively start talking to people all the time.
Even strangers.

So to answer your question.. finally.... no, I don't think it's necessarily an Aspie trait.
Especially considering the fact that most of the Aspies I have heard from seem to avoid talking or interacting with other people and definitely wouldn't be clowns.


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11 Feb 2008, 3:23 am

i_Am_andaJoy wrote:
no, not an INDICATION.

i think a person with AS could be a class clown, since i have heard people on here say they can be briefly funny and likeable in public but it is exhausting for them, but i don't think most class clowns have AS.


I think there is cliche's why is being the class clown exhausting? Making people laugh is a pretty intellectual thing anyway, the fact that someone has aspergers i think makes them more conscious to their delivery.

Some Aspies report that they make great job interviewee's, actors, class clowns. There are alot of cliche's on this forum, and I think people should try to avoid them.



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11 Feb 2008, 3:52 am

No, there's a clown in every class, that's just how societies work.

Many clowns are attention-seekers, this affects NTs and Aspies alike.



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11 Feb 2008, 4:05 am

No it's not an indicator of an aspie, because there's always a clown...

however..

If there's an aspie in the class, he might very well be the clown.

I always was.



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11 Feb 2008, 4:07 am

I was kind of class clown. I used this tactic to cover up the deficits. I got sick of putting myself down, no one respected the clown!

Its exhausting, I just avoid people these days fifteen years on.



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11 Feb 2008, 4:17 am

Silver_Meteor wrote:
Do you think that someone being the class clown in school or the office clown at work is an indication that person might have Asperger's?


When I was at school, in each of my classes there was a class clown...they were all very seemingly NT. Not to say that an aspie couldn't be one, but thats just what i've experienced.


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11 Feb 2008, 4:23 am

Class clown?

I was an Ass Clown and proud of it. :)



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11 Feb 2008, 4:35 am

I was kind of a clown at school. I enjoyed it because it was a way to be in the social world without being expected to be like an NT. If I could be wild and creative and un-serious it helped a lot. Unfortunately I got depression in my 20s and I forgot how to be like that. I would like to re-learn.

i think some AS people adopt personas in the world and it is helpful to them. Im actually looking for a new persona now, because I have realised that the time in my life when I used a persona was the only time I have ever been happy.


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11 Feb 2008, 6:58 am

Sometimes I can be a bit of a clown. :D
Sometimes 'tis fine, other times it hurts. :?


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11 Feb 2008, 6:59 am

It could be.

I am the office clown by a LOOOOOONG shot, because i'm naturally goofy, quirky and silly, and like to make others laugh.



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11 Feb 2008, 8:07 am

I was the class clown all through grade school...my major behavioral issue. I just wanted to be liked, and didn't know when to stop (luckily, people do actually think I'm very funny, otherwise it would have been a thousand times more embarrassing than it was). I was voted Most Unique for senior superlative, but that was because the yearbook kids (friends of mine) told me I was going to be in the yearbook and I knew what was coming and asked...over and over...NOT to be "class clown", so they gave me the next closest, I guess. It's embarrassing because I only know how I've acted was over the top only after it's over and done with and I've had time to think about it...I've tried everything, and even at 20, I think I've hit my "peak" as to good behavior.

One thing people have said to me over and over throughout the years now (I'm just realising) is "you have to laugh, or else you'd cry", plus mentions of the funniest people being the saddest. As with many things in my life, I'm only NOW realizing, after writing about it, that they probably knew more than I did at the time.



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11 Feb 2008, 9:55 am

I'm a clown because I'm so socially awkward and I'd rather be using it to make people laugh than make them uncomfortable. I do stand-up and I seem to be at least mildly amusing. I can't write material worth a damn, but I've been told I have great timing. I've opened at some relatively well-known clubs like The Hollywood Improv, or the Comedy Store on Sunset (that place is so creepy, its like a haunted 13th century dungeon :skull: ), plus a couple Seattle clubs 8) . Mostly I just go to open mikes and the occasional coffee shop. I enjoy it at least, plus its a good self-esteem boost for me. I would encourage you guys to try it. It makes me hate people less when I'm making them laugh.



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11 Feb 2008, 10:21 am

I used to be class clown in grade school.