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Whom will you take up arms for?
I am a friend of the Audies! 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
I am a friend of the Audies! 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Give me Visia or give me death! 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
Give me Visia or give me death! 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
I am from the Wandering Tactile-Kinesthetic Folk. 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
I am from the Wandering Tactile-Kinesthetic Folk. 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
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NeantHumain
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02 Jul 2005, 10:53 pm

The first canon bursts from the Visi encampment have been launched onto Audie territory:

Alexandra Shires Golon wrote:
Because in this new century, our reliance on the computer and the visually-oriented careers that will spring from it mean the talents that come naturally to the visual-spatial learner will be of highest value. [...] Perhaps one day, there will be remedial courses in how to think sequentially because the talent for such will have been lost.

Source: Golon, Alexandra Shires, "The Right Tool for the Job," Gifted Education Communicator, Spring 2003, 34 (1), 8-11. <http://www.visualspatial.org/articles/rttool.pdf>.

These militant visuospatial-dominant thinkers seek to eliminate the province of auditory-sequential thought itself! Another article from the same website claims outrageous numbers for the Visis' cause:
Linda Kreger Silverman wrote:
With the help of two grants from the Morris S. Smith Foundation, the two instruments have been validated on 750 fourth, fifth and sixth graders. In this research, one-third of the school population emerged as strongly visual-spatial. An additional 30% showed a slight preference for the visual-spatial learning style. Only 23% were strongly auditory-sequential. This suggests that a substantial percentage of the school population would learn better using visual-spatial methods.

Source: Silverman, Linda Kreger, "The Visual-Spatial Learner: An Introduction," Soundview School Dolphin News, Winter 2003, 6-7. <http://www.visualspatial.org/articles/intro.pdf>.

I once thought our superb analytical skills, facility with details, boundless vocabulary, and undivided focus would give us Audies an eternal edge over the Visis in our struggle for dominance of teaching styles and even culture. They cite statistics that we are already in the minority and that we have only the last few grains in the hour glass. Do they not realize we are the Left (cortical hemisphere), and the Left represents a sequence of Progress through time? We, from our pedantic grammarians to our systematic librarians, represent Order. Even in their claim that computers will tip the balance of power in favor of the Visis, they are mistaken: The relational databases that are the backbone of government and business alike are a clear adaptation of Audie memory. If the tide is, indeed, turning, it is only a transient anomaly.

Visis, we Audies hear your strikes! Our lieutenants have received their instructions. You will not know the pleasure of victory!



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03 Jul 2005, 12:18 am

Huh?

Visual
Touch
And Auditory?

I assume this is about learning styles? How does one learn through, auditory-sequential??

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03 Jul 2005, 1:33 pm

Visual- learning/thinking through visual modes
Auditory- learning/thinking through auditory modes
Kinesthetic- learning through doing (visual/auditory/touch)

/me raises the Visi flag in the air and fires back with me non-rusted canon!! !


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03 Jul 2005, 5:34 pm

GalileoAce wrote:
Huh?

Visual
Touch
And Auditory?

I assume this is about learning styles? How does one learn through, auditory-sequential??

GA


Yes, it is about learning styles, and a better question is how does one not learn through auditory-sequential thinking? Unfortunately, on the Internet, I have found little popular support for the Audie establishment; I'm only finding webpages that claim a link between the Visis' preferred mode of reasoning for creativity and genius. We Audies must build a popular front for our cause or risk losing society itself to the Visis. What will we do then? Our prowess for analysis will be taunted as antiquated and pedantic; top positions in government and enterprise will go to the Visis; and our Audie children will be at a disadvantage in school as courses are taught towards the visuospatial learning style.

I posit that our Audie thinking can be the genesis of a profound creativity that not even the Visis are capable of. We may not be the best painters or sculptors; but we can be writers, poets, musicians, computer programmers, and even designers. The left hemisphere is not limited to auditory modes of thinking: If I am not mistaken, it plays a role in discerning different shades of color and certain other visual roles. Likewise, the right hemisphere our Visi rivals are so fond of has a role in language and audition: spoken language prosody and nonverbal social cues. I concede these truths to our Visi foes.



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03 Jul 2005, 5:54 pm

hehehe

I'm very much a kinetic learner.

I'll just wait over here on the side until the audies and the visis finish each other off.

Than I'll take over the world!



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03 Jul 2005, 5:55 pm

By the way, a survey of unknown validity claims my learning style is visual/verbal:

DVC Learning Styles Inventory Results wrote:
The results of Harold King of Norway's learning inventory are:

Visual/Nonverbal 18 Visual/Verbal 24 Auditory 16 Kinesthetic 18

Your primary learning style is:

The Visual/ Verbal Learning Style


You learn best when information is presented visually and in a written language format. In a classroom setting, you benefit from instructors who use the blackboard (or overhead projector) to list the essential points of a lecture, or who provide you with an outline to follow along with during lecture. You benefit from information obtained from textbooks and class notes. You tend to like to study by yourself in a quiet room. You often see information "in your mind's eye" when you are trying to remember something.

Learning Strategies for the Visual/ Verbal Learner:

To aid recall, make use of "color coding" when studying new information in your textbook or notes. Using highlighter pens, highlight different kinds of information in contrasting colors.

Write out sentences and phrases that summarize key information obtained from your textbook and lecture.

Make flashcards of vocabulary words and concepts that need to be memorized. Use highlighter pens to emphasize key points on the cards. Limit the amount of information per card so your mind can take a mental "picture" of the information.

When learning information presented in diagrams or illustrations, write out explanations for the information.

When learning mathematical or technical information, write out in sentences and key phrases your understanding of the material. When a problem involves a sequence of steps, write out in detail how to do each step.

Make use of computer word processing. Copy key information from your notes and textbook into a computer. Use the print-outs for visual review.

Before an exam, make yourself visual reminders of information that must be memorized. Make "stick it" notes containing key words and concepts and place them in highly visible places --on your mirror, notebook, car dashboard, etc..

Source: Jester, Catherine. "A Learning Style Survey for College," Diablo Valley College. <http://www.metamath.com/multiple/multiple_choice_questions.html>

I agree with this summary to an extent. I do find writing summarized forms of my notes to be helpful for studying for a final. For example, in my high school Physics I class, the teacher's overhead notes that I (and everyone else) had to copy into my notebook were unnecessarily lengthy and disorganized. Since her tests were primarily filling in the blanks with vocabulary words and applying formulas, all I had to do was write a glossary of definitions, a list of formulas and what they were used for, and diagrams when necessary for the vectors and other things that required us to interpret visual items. I do not color-code my notes, but it would probably make studying more efficient because I could easily scan my notes for highlighted vocabulary and formulas with the descriptions and definitions left unhighlighted. I prefer reading the textbooks to listening to lectures simply because lectures take longer. :D Most teachers and professors take too long to explain things. I don't know about everyone else, but I usually understand concepts instantly; the hard part is memorizing formulas, definitions, and other trivialities. If I have the textbook in front of me for formulas and definitions, I can usually solve problems about as fast as I can write them down (except in mathematics); the only part I dislike is any problem that requires trial and error because I find that tedious. By the way, I certainly do not usually see my notes in my mind's eye.



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17 Sep 2005, 1:50 pm

Complete visual for me. I got a signed copy of Linda Kreger Silverman's book when it was released. It was impressive how much she understood, given she's an auditory person herself.



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17 Sep 2005, 3:20 pm

I think I was rated as 33% each :D


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17 Sep 2005, 3:58 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
The relational databases that are the backbone of government and business alike are a clear adaptation of Audie memory.


Much of the internet in terms of dynamically generated content - such as Wrongplanet.net for exmple - is driven by relational databases too, though the paradigm for both programming and database design is moving towards what is called 'Object-Oriented' approaches.

One of the reasons Postgresql (which by all accounts, is a fine O-RDBMS), has not achieved the prominence it deserves, is due to the fact that it is often considered too 'advanced' for mainstream use.

As regards 'learning styles', I thought people generally deploy different styles, depending on context, which could be based on subject matter or personal preference. Perhaps learning different subjects are best facilitated by adopting different learning approaches. I wouldn't know, I am not an educationalist, nor an educational psychology.

It is only the predominance of one style over another whcih is said to 'typecast' people as fitting into the one category. I do have to say though, that even though I went through a Visual Culture studies Degree, I have reverted in terms of professional and hobbyist interest, to the more technical side of things.

My faculties (for what they are, which isn't a lot), seems more oriented to auditory/verbal modes, though I still maintain a passing interest in visual culture, eg photography, art, etc.


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17 Sep 2005, 4:15 pm

My score on that site:

Visual/Nonverbal 24
Visual/Verbal 24
Auditory 24
Kinesthetic 14

I think I'm predominantly visual/verbal- I learn a lot through reading but I also "hear" what I'm reading in my head to some degree.

So I could be a double agent! :D



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18 Sep 2005, 2:00 am

Visual/Nonverbal 26
Visual/Verbal 24
Auditory 20
Kinesthetic 20

I think a combination of learning styles is good. As adversarial said, it depends on context.

I think visual is more efficient for pure 'memorization' because it isn't as time dependent. (Whereas, to run through an hour long speech in your head will take an hour.)

Auditory is probably superior for things requiring rhythm, like poetry and music?


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18 Sep 2005, 11:55 am

DrizzleMan wrote:
I think visual is more efficient for pure 'memorization' because it isn't as time dependent. (Whereas, to run through an hour long speech in your head will take an hour.)

Auditory-verbal learners do not necessarily go over auditory clips literally in their mind. Remember the left hemisphere abstracts the whole into bits. The left hemisphere turns the concept of cat with its fur, its paws, and its meowing into the utterance /kæt/. Likewise, a speech is not recalled verbatim. I generally only remember main concepts discussed and work my way down from there. Visually or auditorially, I would have trouble remembering something exactly in great detail.



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18 Sep 2005, 5:13 pm

That's why I said visual would be more efficient for pure memorization. I'd imagine that's why most auditory people abstract things. 'Tape recorder' memory might be more common than 'camera' memory but it doesn't have the same mythical status because it probably isn't as useful.

(I don't seem to have a photographic memory, but I wouldn't mind one - it'd be especially useful in bookstores. Scan the book, then go home and read it from memory - no reading lamp required :D)

Actually I think I may be more visual/verbal than visual/non-verbal, since when I read or write I usually hear words in my head. I'd say less auditory because I prefer reading to hearing speech, and less kinesthetic because I don't always have to 'do' something to understand it. But I think all of these styles have their places and the ideal way to learn is one which uses the right combination for the circumstances.


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